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Do you trust the Gravis Marketing poll which had Trump at 30.8% in July, 40% in August & now at 22%?
9/20./2015 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 09/20/2015 12:03:40 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

No flaming others on this thread. Thanks.

With the thread title in mind, which polls do you trust?

Do you trust the "news" polls (as in CNN, ABC News/WaPo, NBC News/WSJ/Survey Monkey or do you trust unscientific online surveys/polls at Drudge Report and Breitbart?

How about Gravis Marketing?

NBC News Poll, Trump, August - 22%.

NBC News poll, Trump, September 6, 2015 - 28%.

Right now in the newest NBC News poll (thread at FR right now), Trump - 29%. No statistical improvement from 28%.

But Trump is down in the new CNN poll (from 32% just recently to 24% now) and down in the Gravis Marketing poll from where he was earlier (30.8% in July, 40.1% in August and now at 22%, tied with Fiorina.

It looks like Gravis Marketing was the cat's meow in past threads at FR with well over 300 replies on just one thread (link below) and many singing the praises of either Trump or Gravis Marketing - but maybe not so much now in the thread yesterday which has Trump at 22% - way down from July and August.

If a/any GOP candidate says they are leading in all of the polls, to which polls are they referring?

Drudge?

Breitbart?

Are those truly scientific polls?

Does that include leading in negatives among the potential GOP candidates?

Does that include not leading among Evangelical voters (Trump's 20% to Carson's 27%)?

Does that include not leading among those whom most people believe won the very recent CNN debate? Most scientific polls show that Fiorina won that debate.


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BTW, Gravis Marketing has conducted their polls for uber-conservative OANN (One America News Network, the news outlet where Sarah Palin has her own show, and which highlighted her interview of Trump recently.
1 posted on 09/20/2015 12:03:40 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

We are not voting for any of The Cheap Labor Express candidates, so you are pretty much wasting your time and FR’s bandwidth with these posts.


2 posted on 09/20/2015 12:07:54 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I look at it like recipes, not one is particularly ‘right’ and most times it goes on tastes.

I look at all polls and generally get an idea from all of them what is the most likely truth.

I don’t think any one poll is necessarily more right than the other, it’s the combination that gives clues.


3 posted on 09/20/2015 12:10:06 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

This is why I don’t want Trump to get too wrapped up in polls. They do cheat. I have been saying this since day one.


4 posted on 09/20/2015 12:10:25 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All; TNMOUTH; GeronL; cripplecreek; ScottinVA; SaraJohnson; SuzyQue; ...

NEW NATIONAL POLL: DONALD TRUMP HAS BIGGEST LEAD EVER WITH CARSON A DISTANT SECOND...

Not so much now:

Way down in the most recent Gravis Marketing poll to now at 22% poll (from a high of 30% up to 40% and now at 22%,

Down in the CNN poll.

No change in the NBC poll from 28% to now 29%.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3329438/posts


5 posted on 09/20/2015 12:10:30 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
This is why I don’t want Trump to get too wrapped up in polls. They do cheat. I have been saying this since day one.

Bingo. I've been thinking the same thing.

They will tank the polls and Trump won't be able to complain about it.

6 posted on 09/20/2015 12:12:18 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Just one poll- no need to get excited!


7 posted on 09/20/2015 12:12:58 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

How come Trump supporters get to proclaim polls/media truthful when they say something about Trump, but declare them untrustworthy when there is the slightest hint of criticism? The media has a vested interest to promote Trump as a conservative because they know he is a liberal.


8 posted on 09/20/2015 12:13:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Don’t you know only polls that are favorable to liberal Donald Trump matter? Those that can be considered negative are meaningless.


9 posted on 09/20/2015 12:13:50 PM PDT by South40 (Trump on Kim Davis: I hate to see her being sent to jail but the law is the law)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Give it up, RINOs. Watching you twist and writhe is fun, but only for a while.


10 posted on 09/20/2015 12:14:24 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

;-) Don’t worry Lassiezzz there will be another poll showing Trump on top and then another one then another and many more showing Trump as the man. ;-)


11 posted on 09/20/2015 12:16:07 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Do you get HOT when you see Rove?


12 posted on 09/20/2015 12:18:49 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I only trust the final poll the night before the election.

Maybe not even that.


13 posted on 09/20/2015 12:19:51 PM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t think Trump is a conservative, I also don’t think he’s a liberal. I think he’s an American who does not want to give up his country to illegal aliens. Does not want to abandon the bedrock of the Republic, the rule of law.

Right now that puts him head and shoulders above the many multi-national politicians


14 posted on 09/20/2015 12:20:12 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Giving any poll any value more than a year before a Presidential election is ridiculous.


15 posted on 09/20/2015 12:21:59 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: All
I don't trust any poll. As far back as I can remember (Vietnam, they're all rigged.

Go with your gut and let the "Talking Heads" realize....

Take your poll(s) and shove it.
16 posted on 09/20/2015 12:23:14 PM PDT by ssfromla
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If you search Gravis Marketing, you’ll find it’s a scam. They have no polling center or even any phones! They plagiarize OTHER POLLSTERS’ numbers and cook them to whatever their client wants to pay for. GOPe wanted lower numbers for Trump Wednesday night, so that’s what they got.

Check it out for yourself.


17 posted on 09/20/2015 12:25:09 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I trust the Real Clear Politics poll. It averages the 4 to 6 latest polls and I think that is as good as you can do. And those polls show Trump down from his peak. Likewise Cruz and Carson. Rubio and Fiorina are clearly on the rise following the debate.

The Dead Men Walking are: Kasich, Walker, Santorum, Jindal, Graham and Pataki. Chrisitie is up from near zero following the debate. He along with Huckabee and Paul are hanging on by a thread.

18 posted on 09/20/2015 12:25:48 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: ssfromla

I agree—I remember 1948-—the mother of all poll fiascos.

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19 posted on 09/20/2015 12:27:03 PM PDT by Mears (Liberals in the U.S. are less tolerant than Pol Pot was.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Does the average people call about the standings in the polls.? I think not.

But the average person can't help but notice Donald Trump. He is everywhere. They know he's the most popular, and that is what is important.

A lot of people will go to the polls and vote for whoever they think is going to win. Perception is important. Trump is perceived as a winner, so maybe people will vote for him simply because of that

20 posted on 09/20/2015 12:27:46 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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