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Do you trust the Gravis Marketing poll which had Trump at 30.8% in July, 40% in August & now at 22%?
9/20./2015 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 09/20/2015 12:03:40 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Is this your little happy dance?


41 posted on 09/20/2015 12:50:27 PM PDT by JoSixChip
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It’s one poll. There will be plenty of others soon.

Everybody relax.


42 posted on 09/20/2015 12:50:53 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: nickcarraway
Uhm, how about THIS post:

I think polls this early are stupid, let alone most polls.

Oh, let me guess. That doesn't count cause you didn't mean it that way, right.

43 posted on 09/20/2015 12:54:52 PM PDT by papertyger (Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui neat. / Proof lies on him who asserts, not on him who denies)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Hey Trump is ahead in all the polls. That’s as good as it gets. When some others drop out and Carly’s 15 minutes are up I predict Trump will poll even higher. 4 mos out he’s doing very well.


44 posted on 09/20/2015 12:58:19 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

He may well be telling us what we want to hear, that beats the hell out of being told we can’t stop illegal aliens from coming in.

¡Yeb!


45 posted on 09/20/2015 1:00:09 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: nickcarraway
I have criticized Trump for being a liberal, a phony, and a liar.

Hardly. "Criticism" would imply you've brought something to the table besides circumstantial evidence, and your own antipathy.

46 posted on 09/20/2015 1:00:15 PM PDT by papertyger (Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui neat. / Proof lies on him who asserts, not on him who denies)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Remember: The polls with the results you like are always accurate and the polls with the results you don’t like are cooked, skewed, biased, etc..


47 posted on 09/20/2015 1:01:47 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: papertyger
Uhm, it's called a "policy paper."

First of all, a policy paper is meaningless if you can't trust the person who commissioned it. Let me gues: You also trust McConnell and Boehner 100% too. Well, I find all three completely untrustworthy. You should too. Just having a ghostwriter spit out some drivel doesn't mean anything. I bet Trump couldn't even answer a quiz about what's in that paper.


Most importantly: That position paper was written without any understanding of conservative philosophy. Trump's people showed they don't understand conservative economics or the immigration problem AT ALL.

It's been mentioned many times on Free Republic in the past. The immigration issue is all about economics. The U.S. system incentivizes illegal immigration. That is 99% of the issue. As long as the U.S> is incentivizing illegal immigration, anything not addressing that fundamental issue will solve the problem. So right there, the people Trump hired get an "F" on understanding immigration. So, even if they had any intention of following through on that paper, it would be doomed to failure.

There was also another time bomb Trump's people put in there. The 60 million illegal immigrants ALREADY HERE are the bulk. The future flow of illegal immigrants will not match those already here. Trump has vacillated greatly, often saying he will let them stay here. He is trying to finesse the issue, but ultimately, he behind amnesty.

So, I think trump's position paper gets a well-deserved "F."

48 posted on 09/20/2015 1:05:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Who cares?


49 posted on 09/20/2015 1:05:51 PM PDT by dforest
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To: cripplecreek
"Back in 04 I always voted for John Kerry in polls to screw with their results and look how it worked out. The liberals were sure the race was over and John Kerry was going to win by a landslide."

Back then I was posting on the AOL politics boards. The liberals were CERTAIN of a victory, just like you say. One of them, a fat lesbian lawyer, composed a song of victory to Kerry and posted it the night before the election.

She vanished after that, LOL.

50 posted on 09/20/2015 1:13:31 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...he will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
No flaming others on this thread. Thanks.

Yes, I'm sure you'd like very much for us Freepers to sit quiet while you systematically abuse JimRob's website to tear down the front-running, outsider, Republican candidate for president.

Just like the libs, the muzzies, the leftmedia, and the GOP-e -- you want us silenced.

Ain't gonna happen, troll.

51 posted on 09/20/2015 1:13:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“Watching a Trump supporter call other Republicans RINOs is hilarious.

“Although, I guess for much of his career, Trump wasn’t even a Republican in name....”

You know, I don’t think many Trumpistas realize this, but when you alienate yourself from 95% of other Republicans, maybe you’re the RINOs.


52 posted on 09/20/2015 1:19:41 PM PDT by HoosierDammit ("When that big rock n' roll clock strikes 12, I will be buried with my Tele on!" Bruce Springsteen)
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To: SamAdams76
I don't put as much reliance on polls as I put upon the turnout and energy of a candidate's rallies.

That is perhaps the worst possible way to judge who is winning or losing an election.

Big rallies measure intensity, not depth of support.

McGovern had massive rallies in '72, yet Nixon beat him easily. Nader filled arenas in 2000, yet got all of 3%ish of the vote. Old nutter Ron Paul could fill an auditorium better than anyone, yet he was a blip on the radar in terms of who was really going to win the nomination every time he ran, Palin generated tons of enthusiasm and big crowds yet her ticket with McCain lost the '08 election handily.

Polls matter. Trump has an fanatical base of support (plus a large curiosity factor considering he is a celebrity), but that won't necessarily translate into the nomination because his long term support may be shallow. Primary polls are notoriously inaccurate compared to general election polls, but they are still more valuable than who is turning out big crowds.

53 posted on 09/20/2015 1:20:09 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: HoosierDammit

95% of other Republicans support Trump? News to me.


54 posted on 09/20/2015 1:20:38 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: nickcarraway
Most importantly: That position paper was written without any understanding of conservative philosophy.

You don't seem to understand his not being a "movement conservative" does not give you the moral authority to proclaim him a liberal, and condemn everything he says while leaving your own credibility intact.

Indeed, vapid comments like "I bet Trump couldn't even answer a quiz about what's in that paper," do little more than highlight your petulance.

55 posted on 09/20/2015 1:22:30 PM PDT by papertyger (Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui neat. / Proof lies on him who asserts, not on him who denies)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Hey Trump is ahead in all the polls. That’s as good as it gets. When some others drop out and Carly’s 15 minutes are up I predict Trump will poll even higher. 4 mos out he’s doing very well.


Yes like this one:

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Sept 20, 2015
"Donald Trump Extends Lead in First Post-Debate Poll – Is Viewed as “Most Presidential”"

Jim Hoft Sep 20th, 2015 10:11 am 16 Comments

Billionaire businessman Donald Trump extended his lead in the first prominent post-debate poll released by NBC News Sunday.

Post debate NBC poll: Trump 29% Carson 14% Carly 11% Jeb 8% Cruz 7% Rubio 7% Rand 3% Christie 3% Walker 3% Kasich 2% http://t.co/PywxlCgGfk

— Howie Klein (@downwithtyranny) September 20, 2015

Trump was also viewed as “most presidential” among the GOP candidates. NBC News reported: ..."

-snip-

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/donald-trump-extends-lead-in-first-post-debate-poll-is-viewed-as-most-presidential/

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Always another poll around the corner that's going to show Trump in the lead. :-)

56 posted on 09/20/2015 1:23:01 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Red Steel
;-) Don’t worry Lassiezzz there will be another poll showing Trump on top and then another one then another and many more showing Trump as the man. ;-)

Man, this isn't gonna end will for you Trumpkins. Donald yammers on and on about polls, but when they start to recede I'm sure he won't be mentioning them anymore - and neither will his followers here. Suddenly, for Trumpkins, all these polls they have been touting will become GOPe conspiracies.

57 posted on 09/20/2015 1:23:10 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Sure LoL. It’s not going end well for the GOPe.


58 posted on 09/20/2015 1:28:44 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: papertyger
I am only claiming he is a liberal based on his liberal opinions. (Kelo, taxes, big government, single payer healthcare, "taking abortion out of the political arena," gay marriage/Christian bashing pageant, etc.) That's more than enough to be called a liberal. Other politicians have been called liberals for far less on FR> (And by the way, many here think he is a movement conservative)
59 posted on 09/20/2015 1:30:57 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: papertyger
Indeed, vapid comments like "I bet Trump couldn't even answer a quiz about what's in that paper," do little more than highlight your petulance.

Why is that? Was it petulant when everyone made telepropmpter jokes about Obama? So far, Trump has never been able to show he has a basic understanding of conservatism. Yet, he says he's, "very smart." 23 times in one speech, but that's okay?

60 posted on 09/20/2015 1:32:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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