Posted on 01/17/2016 1:16:51 AM PST by RC one
Even if both of Senator Ted Cruz’s parents were American born, it still wouldn’t matter. He was born in Canada. Period. His parents weren’t there because they needed to be. They were there because they wanted to be. Ted Cruz, by the letter and spirit of the law, cannot be president! p>The problem for Ted Cruz is that we know what the spirit and letter of the law says. It says if you want to be an American president, you have to be born on United States territory just like every other man who’s ever held the office was born in the contiguous United States and Hawaii.
But there’s more! This may put to rest any chance Ted Cruz has to somehow convince us he’s not really Canadian, and should be allowed to be president. Some have tried to argue that although Cruz’s parents were in Canada when he was born, they were still U.S. citizens. I guess they want us to see it as an extended work vacation of some sort.
Unfortunately, here’s the problem. According to a new report released by Canadian authorities, Cruz’s mother not only lived in Canada, but she was enrolled as a voter.
In a document uncovered by “Talking Points Memo†and published by Breitbart News, Ted Cruz’s parents were officially named on a Calgary list of electors for Canada’s federal election in July 8, 1974. They are listed as residents of 920 Riverdale Avenue, Calgary, Alberta who are eligible to vote. And here’s the clincher, only Canadian Citizens are allowed to vote in Canada. That’s right, Canadian law restricts federal voting rights to only Canadian citizens. It’s pretty simple, if Eleanor and Rafael Cruz were eligible to vote according to the Canadian election board, that means they were Canadian citizens.
(Excerpt) Read more at latino.foxnews.com ...
Why not let anyone run for President?
Some States in fact have. You pay your money, you get your permit.
FWIW, it's not the best of arguing positions. You're acknowledging that if she did in fact register to vote in Canada it's a prohibitive problem in Cruz's status.
When we one day amend the Constitution regarding eligibility and natural born status, I hope they include an etched-in-stone closed-book time-limited test for candidates based on current Hillsdale College studies on the Constitution. Something any candidate can study online.
Maybe Milton Friedman’s serie on economics as well. And most definitely a test on the Broken Windows Fallacy.
FRegards ....
It would be a mistake to pass it, but this country is going to hell in a handbasket, so might as well hurry it along. I'm not long for this earth, but being an old fart has its advantages.
‘But seriously, the issue is who is the gatekeeper?’
One gatekeeper is the Voter. We the People.
When rulings contradict original intent regarding natural born status, you saw how bad it was with us Obama Birthers.
Imagine that on crack — leftist college students and the New Black Panthers quoting Tribe on originalism. Not a pretty sight.
Assuming “B” is referring to Cruz, it’s incorrect. Ted Cruz’s father was not an American citizen; he was a Cuban national who moved to Canada not on a temporary work assignment, but permanently, and became a naturalized Canadian citizen. Cruz hasn’t released any documentation of his mother’s status at the time of his birth, but there has been speculation that she also naturalized in Canada based on her showing up with her husband on the voter rolls there.
Perhaps part of the reason they didn’t is because they believed it was already written in simple language already.
Secondly, they most likely never envisioned the dumbed-down electorate we have in this country today.
A fellow by the name of Schwartz. If Cruz doesn't ask the court to dismiss for standing, the court is likely to hear on the merits. Cruz will ask the court to dismiss on standing, and the case will be dismissed on standing.
‘Then all citizens are eligible. That’s an appealing, ‘fair’ approach, and it would pass easily, today.’
We have US citizens who want to join ISIS. Won’t fly, but keep thinking, FRiend. You are on the right track.
FRegards ....
Now I know why I bothered to read this 50th thread on Cruz & citizenship. You nailed it.
In this country, we the people must be the gatekeepers.
I agree on both accounts.
“The information on that certificate suggests that he might qualify as a citizen of three different countries.”
. . . and thus is not a natural born citizen of the United States. The whole purpose of the provision was to prevent people who might have even the slightest shred of divided loyalties from birth from ascending to the Presidency. IF being born with the potential to be a citizen of three different countries doesn’t represent exactly that then I don’t know what would.
Best I can tell, this claim is an echo of the following article ...
Exclusive: 1974 Canadian Electors List Named Ted Cruz’s Parents
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3381497/posts
I assume this is the source of his claim. Please correct me if he has another source.
Now for the debunking ...
Post 16:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3381497/posts?page=16#16
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In the first place the title is erroneous. This is the equivalent of a census and does not establish if anyone in the residence is a voter.
Secondly Cruz’s mother was not even eligible to become a Canadian citizen at the time of his birth because there is a five year residency requirement to apply. She moved to Canada in 1967. Cruz was born in 1970.
Assuming one has to be a Canadian citizen to vote there this is BS!
— conservativejoy
[And Conservativejoy, please tell Cripplecreek and Editor Surveyor that I’m glad to help stamp out lies when I see them? I might be a Trump supporter, but I don’t want lies echoed if I can help it. One called me a liar and the other was even worse when all I did was try to get to the bottom of things. Cripplecreek doesn’t even want me contacting him anymore. It’s ridiculous.]
Why should we expect them to honor this section of the Constitution when they clearly do not honor the rest of it? Land grabs, second amendment, standing army, the works.
I just can't believe so many people who are supposed to be so aware of globalization can't see that that is exactly what is happening.
Everyone saying "Let the courts decide" are delusional if they think the court will come up with anything close to original intent.
It would be more likely they would 'discover' anyone with even the least tenuous connection to the country would be a *natural born citizen* and eligible to be President.
“A man born with dual or triple nationality can not logically be considered a natural born citizen.”
Obama touted his dual citizenship on his website for a long time.
Obama unlocked Pandora’s box. Ted Cruz will open it up and show us all what’s inside.
This case cannot be decided “on merit” because the court has no jurisdiction to hear it. It would be no different than calling a presidential candidate ineligible to serve in office based on a decision by your local building inspector.
Which has no bearing on anything because his mother was the parent who was a U.S. citizen, not his father.
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