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To: RC one
In American law and in the common law, citizenship is determined by soil before blood and that's the dirty little secret that nobody wants to talk about.

You may be right, but there's a big problem with that. Let's look at two people with the following characteristics:

Person A: Born in the U.S. to an American mother and a foreign father who were not married. Moves to a foreign country in Asia as a child without his mother and is raised as a Muslim by a stepfather. Comes back to the U.S. and changes his name multiple times. Makes his way onto the U.S. political scene with all kinds of unfilled gaps in his background.

Person B: Born in Canada to two married parents who are both U.S. citizens, while his father is on a temporary work assignment north of the border. Spent almost his entire life in the U.S., and can account for just about every day he's lived on this earth.

For the sake of this discussion, let's assume that Barack Hussein Obama was actually born in Hawaii. Based on the case you've presented, he would be eligible to serve as the President of the United States but this hypothetical "Person B" would not.

This is where legalities clash with reality.

8 posted on 01/17/2016 2:02:06 AM PST by Alberta's Child (My mama said: "To get things done, you'd better not mess with Major Tom.")
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To: Alberta's Child
Person B's father became a nationalized citizen of the United states in 2005 and was not on a temporary work assignment north of the border. he lived and worked in Canada and was a citizen of Canada and his son was born in full allegiance to Canada and renounced his own Canadian citizenship 9 years after his father when it became clear to him that it would complicate his campaign to be POTUS.

This has nothing to do with Ted Cruz's character which I'm sure is unimpeachable. This is about the law and it's about the reason we have the law. Deeper than that, it's about establishing a precedent for violating this law.

11 posted on 01/17/2016 2:12:09 AM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Cruz’s daddy wasn’t a US citizen btw.. just sayin

let’s say an American woman(who is married to a non American) gives birth to a child in Canada and they live there for 40 years NEVER stepping foot in the USA and the 40 year old son says one day I don’t know squat about the USA and even though I have always loved Canada and always will I want to be President of the United States so I’m going to leave Canada and move my residency to the USA for at least 14 years and then run for President, now according to conventional wisdom that would be perfectly legal


19 posted on 01/17/2016 2:27:31 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Alberta's Child

Assuming “B” is referring to Cruz, it’s incorrect. Ted Cruz’s father was not an American citizen; he was a Cuban national who moved to Canada not on a temporary work assignment, but permanently, and became a naturalized Canadian citizen. Cruz hasn’t released any documentation of his mother’s status at the time of his birth, but there has been speculation that she also naturalized in Canada based on her showing up with her husband on the voter rolls there.


106 posted on 01/17/2016 4:44:27 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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