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Anodizing (Or the beauty of corrosion)
YouTube ^ | Published on Feb 24, 2014 | Anna Berney

Posted on 02/06/2016 8:20:33 PM PST by Utilizer

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To: zeugma; BradyLS
For both of you and especially for those who may not be aware of what Damascus steel swords looked like, here is a treat.


The pattern only comes out when the steel is blued or browned. It is only slightly apparent in the steel when
polished, but when chemically "rusted,"the true beauty of the differing qualities of the carbon contents of the
various steels becomes apparent.


The Damascus shotgun barrels where made by hammer welding the pre-damascened metal billet around a
steel mandrel. This particularly fine specimen shows the spiraling nature of the Damascene metal as it was
wound the mandrel from muzzle to breech.

The "lost technique of making Damascus Steel" is a myth. It was never lost, it was merely supplanted by better means of making stronger and better steel for weapons that were safer and longer lasting, if not so beautiful. I tried to find some examples of broken Damascus steel swords, but very few survive as steel was in high demand and value when such weapons were in use, and a broken blade's metal was quickly re-used. However, here are some shotguns that suffer from the problems of Damascus steel aging:


This sample is probably the result of an impurity which caused age
corrosion inside the steel, or too much carbon which impeded hammer welding.


This sample demonstrates clear crystallization between the welds of the Damascened metal,
resulting in complete failure under overpressure from a modern shotgun load.

When I managed a gun shop in my youth, among the horrible examples I kept for hunter and and firearm safety training classes of what NOT to do, I had several Damascus barrel failures to show why you should never attempt to shoot Grampa's old hand-me-down shotgun, no matter how good it looked, especially with modern shotshells. Some of them had mid-barrel blow-outs, ten or more inches beyond the chambers where the metal just failed. Others failed at the breech. One cheap model had literally unwound, failing where the ribbon billet had become corroded between the spirals.

I literally cringed every time I watched the Pawn Stars "experts" claiming that an antique firearm was worth a lot more if they could tell a customer it could still fire, and they'd take it out and fire it, especially an antique shotgun with a Damascus barrel. I never advised shooting fine antiques. There was too much chance of breakage and as long as the mechanism was operational, there was NO additional value in knowing an antique firearm was still fireable. Firing it could crack the metal, the stocks, or irreplaceable springs. In addition, they were literally taking Chum's life in their hands with each trigger pull. If I wanted to shoot antiques, I'd buy a modern reproduction, not shoot the antique.

"Note that while pattern welding did produce stronger barrels in the 1700s and part of the 1800s, the rise of better steel production techniques made this technology somewhat obsolete. Despite popular culture which assumes that pattern welded Japanese samurai swords can cut through anything, the truth is that even a modern spring from a car suspension has better quality steel than an authentic pattern welded Japanese sword from the 1700s/1800s. The same holds true for gun-barrels as well and modern steels far exceed pattern welded steel in hardness, toughness and durability. The extra labor and specialized skills needed to make pattern welded steel barrels also made it less desirable compared to other techniques. Source: Firearms History, Technology & Development

The source for the block quote above has some excellent explanations of how Damascus shotgun barrels are made. Unlike the swordsmiths of Damascus, they use square rods and sheets of iron and steel stacked in patterns which were easier to exclude impurities than round wires which were easier to draw out. The more expensive patterns could also use triangles, rhomboids, hexagonal shapes, etc., anything that could be closely fitted and bundled together before heat and hammer welded, then twisted to produced a unique pattern in the final metal.

Some of the wordsmiths insisted on using charcoal produced only from a specific type of tree for their forges, thinking only that would get what they wanted. in any case, making either swords or Damascus metal of any type was extremely labor and skill intensive and lost out to modern steel formulations and forging. It's now only used for artisan knives and art guns, etc.

21 posted on 02/07/2016 11:47:12 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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To: Utilizer

Thanks for posting. I’m an ME with a few materials courses 40+ years ago, but I never studied anodizing. This guy does a great job of putting the process into easy to understand lay terms. What I didn’t understand is why titanium can use light interference based on the oxide thickness to create different colors, but aluminum uses the dye process.


22 posted on 02/07/2016 1:34:42 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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Thanks for posting. I’m an ME with a few materials courses 40+ years ago, but I never studied anodizing. This guy does a great job of putting the process into easy to understand lay terms. What I didn’t understand is why titanium can use light interference based on the oxide thickness to create different colors, but aluminum uses the dye process.

i think it's because the the Oxides of Aluminum are either white or transparent unless doped with some impurities such as chrome. However, as he posted out the centers of the hexagonal areas are hollow and will accept a inserted dye, which will give you a whole gamut of dye colors not available with doping.

The explanation of the titanium seems to show that between the surface and the substrate of the Titanium oxide is always exactly a half-wave length of the inciding light so the thicker the coating the different the wave length that will interfere, ergo, the different the wavelength that will refract while the other colors are either absorbed or scattered. At least that was what I got out of his explanation.

23 posted on 02/07/2016 2:10:52 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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To: Swordmaker

Really cool story.

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24 posted on 02/07/2016 2:13:43 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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I dunno, I don’t think it was at all boring. I found it quite informative and instructional as a matter of fact, and intend to do some practice runs on a few odd pieces I have laying about in the near future to see what I can come up with.

Cheers.


25 posted on 02/07/2016 5:24:24 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I would think because of the different properties of the two metals’ oxides would produce different results.

Think of the visual differences between Aluminum oxide, Iron oxide, and Copper Oxide for instance.


26 posted on 02/07/2016 5:29:24 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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27 posted on 02/07/2016 8:08:35 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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