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Carson, Not Cruz, At Fault for Iowa
Granite Grok ^ | 2/7/2016 | Donald Ewing

Posted on 02/07/2016 4:26:52 PM PST by conservativejoy

Who's to blame for the rumor that Ben Carson was suspending his campaign after the Iowa caucus?

Was it CNN which accurately reported that Ben Carson was returning to Florida after the caucus, wouldn't go to New Hampshire or South Carolina, would go to the Washington prayer breakfast, would be speaking at 9:15 regardless of the caucus results, and speculated that a serious Presidential candidate wouldn't act this way? Was it the CNN tweet: "After the #IAcaucus, @RealBenCarson plans to take a break from campaigning."

Was it the Marco Rubio campaign that "was pushing the narrative hard" that Carson was dropping out? Was it the Ted Cruz campaign that passed the CNN report to its caucus leaders? Was it the Rand Paul campaign that apparently did the same?

Was it Carson's staff which, hearing of the CNN report, didn't correct the speculation? Or was it the Carson campaign itself for giving CNN the information that led to the report and the subsequent speculation which they reported as "Breaking News"?

The media, the political establishment, and his political opponents say the caucus winner, Ted Cruz, is to blame.

Did Ted Cruz or his campaign create the news or speculation? No.

Did they invalidly pass on the CNN report? No.

Was the Carson campaign prevented from correcting the impression given by the CNN report? No.

Is there evidence that a single vote was changed? No.

Would Carson have place third or higher if the CNN information hadn’t gotten out? Not likely, Carson needed 25,000 votes to move into third place. Carson placed where the polls projected, fourth.

Since the Iowa Donald Trump has viciously attacked and lied about Ted Cruz's role in what happened; that is the price of beating Trump who is sore loser, but a loser none-the-less.

Hypocritically, Marco Rubio has joined the attacks on Ted Cruz who he can't best on the issues.

And the media, which wants an establishment candidate, a RINO, to win the primary, has also been attacking Cruz. To create a false impression the media withholds the actual information, e.g., the actual CNN report and the related tweets. The media doesn't ask why the Carson campaign provided the information (unusual for a serious candidate) that caused the speculation?

For the timeline of this situation with the CNN report and the tweets, see: Link

Imagine for a moment if the tables had been reversed, if Cruz had done exactly like Carson did and leaked the plans to CNN, neglected to get CNN to correct their report, neglected to inform caucus workers that the CNN report was false, and in fact even made such strange plans that caused the speculation by not going directly to the next primary state, New Hampshire, or the primary after that, South Carolina, for several days, in fact didn't hold a single public event (as far as I can tell, he didn't even arrive here apparently until Friday or Saturday) between the caucus and Saturday night’s debate.

What if Cruz had done what Carson did and Trump had been aware of the information, the speculation, and passed it to his caucus coordinators? What would be said?

Everyone would say what a stupid and poorly managed campaign Cruz was running, and how that showed he wasn't prepared to be President.

Everyone wants to take out Cruz, so they blame him for Carson's blunders. Cruz is the target because he is the biggest threat to Trump, to the establishment, and, after Trump who they think they can take down eventually, to his competitors.

I admire Dr. Ben Carson; he would be a fine President. I will happily vote for him if he is the Republican nominee. But he is running a strange campaign, and his own actions and his campaign are to blame for what happened in Iowa. I am disappointed that Carson is trying to blame someone else for his campaign's mistake, it is unworthy of him.


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1 posted on 02/07/2016 4:26:52 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: conservativejoy

From a New Hampshire resident, one of the best articles I’ve seen on the controversy.


2 posted on 02/07/2016 4:27:46 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: conservativejoy
And Nixon was not responsible for Watergate. And Hillary was not responsible for Whitewater, Benghazi, email scandal, etc.

Spin, spin, spin

3 posted on 02/07/2016 4:29:31 PM PST by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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To: conservativejoy
Was it CNN which accurately reported that Ben Carson was returning to Florida after the caucus, wouldn't go to New Hampshire or South Carolina, would go to the Washington prayer breakfast, would be speaking at 9:15 regardless of the caucus results, and speculated that a serious Presidential candidate wouldn't act this way?

Looks like Carson is dropping out.

4 posted on 02/07/2016 4:30:54 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: conservativejoy

These useless blogs are only talking to a few people. They mean nothing. Cruz got caught. He apologized which means he stole the votes AND he begged Carson for a meeting. He is guilt ridden and helped him to lose the debate last night.

He is rightfully paying for his lack of integrity.


5 posted on 02/07/2016 4:31:03 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: conservativejoy

And, the other side of the story. The voicemail to Cruz precinct captains.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/04/ted-cruz-voicemails-ben-carson-exclusive-audio/


6 posted on 02/07/2016 4:32:08 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: conservativejoy

Thank You!


7 posted on 02/07/2016 4:32:53 PM PST by nfldgirl
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To: napscoordinator

When you have some folks who changed their votes, get back to us.


8 posted on 02/07/2016 4:34:05 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: gg188

Spin, Spin, Spin
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Wahhh, Wahh, Wahh


9 posted on 02/07/2016 4:35:44 PM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: Sasparilla

The voicemail was accurate . Carson didn’t show up in New Hampshire for any campaign events. That must have been some load of laundry!


10 posted on 02/07/2016 4:36:08 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: gg188

Trumper Tantrum!


11 posted on 02/07/2016 4:36:47 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: gg188

Lying is not a sin if the Cruz team does it. We must remember it is Carson who was lied abouts fault. /s


12 posted on 02/07/2016 4:36:58 PM PST by nclaurel
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To: gg188
Exactly....whatever a ‘politician’ does or says anymore in this Country, it isn't their fault...it's always someone else’s fault...

In the case of Cruz, it was HIS campaign that sent out those illegal voter letters, and it was HIS campaign that passed the rumor around that Carson was leaving the campaign and to vote for Cruz...

If you can't control your campaign staff, then how can you control what goes on in America? You can't....and anyone with common sense, which I know is not a commodity now days, is fooling themselves...

Take responsibility for your actions, if you can't do that, your word and action doesn't mean diddly squat!!!

13 posted on 02/07/2016 4:38:10 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ("The Force Awakens"!!! TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP!!! 100%)
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To: FreeReign

He lost 20 more staffers last week in NH!


14 posted on 02/07/2016 4:38:50 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Sasparilla
Hello, this is the Cruz campaign with breaking news: Dr. Ben Carson will be [garbled] suspending campaigning following tonight’s caucuses. Please inform any Carson caucus goers of this news and urge them to caucus for Ted instead. Thank you. Good night.

"Suspend"?

LOL. Carson did suspend his campaign.

15 posted on 02/07/2016 4:39:37 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: gg188

Actually, it’s guys like you whom I distrust. You will take any fraudulent meme and run with it to help your candidate, knowing that there are dummies out there who can’t think logically.


16 posted on 02/07/2016 4:39:57 PM PST by alstewartfan ("I came back as a large hippopotamus." Al Stewart)
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To: conservativejoy

Keep telling yourself that and plug your ears and hum too, because it’s just opposite of what the rest of the world thinks, and not how anyone outside your RedState echo chamber of Cruz-worship is reporting it.

But please, keep the story going! Keep denying and explaining in lawyerly terms, Americans love that and it always works!


17 posted on 02/07/2016 4:42:14 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: conservativejoy; All
In the Carson video on Gretawire, shortly after 0:30, Carson made the statement that if they wanted to verify story it would only have taken seconds.
VIDEO: Carson: Cruz-Iowa Controversy ‘No Minor Incident,’ Was Deliberate

As I have ranted elsewhere, at this point in the presidential race it is easier to be a Trump apologist than a Cruz apologist.

Noting that I will vote for either Trump or Cruz, the Carson video employs ”subliminal” video effects. For example, Trump clip makes him look demonic with an inferno in background imo.

18 posted on 02/07/2016 4:42:59 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: nclaurel

You Trumpeteers are sickening with your fake attacks on Cruz. You can’t defend Pelosi’s and Schumer’s friend Donald, so all you can do is attack.


19 posted on 02/07/2016 4:43:12 PM PST by alstewartfan ("I came back as a large hippopotamus." Al Stewart)
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To: Amendment10

Carson or his campaign could have also corrected the CNN story. They should have had people at the precincts. Are they all as clueless as Carson?


20 posted on 02/07/2016 4:44:32 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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