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To: BroJoeK
Evolutionary scientists say your claim is wrong.


"Natural selection [is] an immensely powerful idea with radical philosophical implications. . . . The radicalism of natural selection lies in its power to dethrone some of the deepest and most traditional comforts of Western thought, particularly the notion that nature's benevolence, order, and good design, with humans at a sensible summit of power and excellence, proves the existence of an omnipotent and benevolent creator. . . . To these beliefs Darwinian natural selection presents the most contrary position imaginable." — Stephen Jay Gould



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There's hundreds, if not thousands, of these quotes that prove you wrong.

Better yet, declare these evolutionary scientists "incoherent" and shoot yourself in the foot.
35 posted on 02/14/2016 9:22:51 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: angryoldfatman
angryoldfatman: "There's hundreds, if not thousands, of these quotes that prove you wrong.
Better yet, declare these evolutionary scientists 'incoherent' and shoot yourself in the foot."

Those quotes prove only what I've already explained to you, at great length, for example, in post #30 above.
And yes, they are incoherent, because they assert, as fact, what cannot be observed or confirmed, namely that: the methodological naturalism of modern science necessitates a corresponding philosophical naturalism -- a.k.a. atheism.

Since philosophical naturalism cannot be observed or confirmed, and since it denies the existence of something many people personally experience in their lives, it falls into the category of "faith" and "religion", not science.

So to review, I'll ask you once again, grab hold of your wandering mind, and force it to think logically:
Modern science (including evolution) is methodologically natural science, meaning a search exclusively for natural explanations to natural processes.
Such methodology does not deny the existence of a supernatural realm, simply refuses, by definition, to examine it.

So people with scientific day-jobs are perfectly free to go home to their families at night and practice whatever religion they wish, and indeed, huge numbers do just that.

But your quotes, angryoldfatman, all come from believers in, in effect, an atheistic philosophy/religion called, among other things: "philosophical naturalism", or "ontological naturalism" or "metaphysical naturalism".
It simply means they have made the choice to deny the existence of anything outside the natural realm.
That's their free-will choice, it's not science.

So, how many times do I need to repeat this before the basic concept sinks into your, excuse me, fat head, FRiend?

36 posted on 02/15/2016 3:13:58 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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