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Given the similar decline in editing in general, is it any wonder the Fourth Estate finds itself in such dire straits?
1 posted on 02/11/2016 1:52:47 PM PST by Riflema
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Which may be why Trump under-polled in NH.


2 posted on 02/11/2016 1:59:27 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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It’s called the RCP Average because they usually take 3 polls, and average them. That’s all. Not really sure what the big deal is.


5 posted on 02/11/2016 2:08:12 PM PST by Durbin
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Trumpeters ever holding on to the myth that DJT is some sort of wunderknabe, rather than the socialist tyrant in waiting he really is ... and I dislike all the other losers in both parties.

Very sad the country finds itself in the dire straits it has entered. Glad I’m as old as I am, seeing US politics come to the sad state it has fallen into by way of an electorate that is more interested in entertainment than civics, and now unable to tell anything about anyone unless they are told what to look for - usually by way of the politician’s own rhetoric and wishful thinking.


6 posted on 02/11/2016 2:09:45 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Yeah. It’s an average of polls.

If you want to do more in-depth statistical analysis of the polling data, feel free. But it’s a nice quick view at an average and a good place to find quick links to all of the major polling.


8 posted on 02/11/2016 2:13:35 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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Double posting does not increase post accuracy.


9 posted on 02/11/2016 2:16:14 PM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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Thanks for taking the time to lay it out. I’ve known it, just being the type whose motto is “In God we trust, everyone else bring facts and data and be prepared to defend it”. ;-)

To be honest, I’m not sure some polls are anything but smoke and mirrors BS intended to influence public opinion. All it takes is a fancy-sounding credible name to be in the polling business, right? So what’s to stop “Free Republic/University of Hardknocks Polling” from announcing the results of their latest polls without doing anything more than put the desired numbers into a press release? Nobody vets anything nowadays, and I’ll bet you it would get picked up and publicized by organizations who liked the numbers.

But blatant phonyfacting aside, political polls are always a good reminder of Mark Twain’s famous saying....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics


11 posted on 02/11/2016 2:19:20 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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RCP doesn’t poll, the “RCP Averages” poll is just an average of available polls that are taken out there either from independent firms or the media elite.


13 posted on 02/11/2016 2:21:16 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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Given that the individual polls may all have a distinctively different methodologies, it makes more sense treating each as a individual data point rather than do a weighted average as you suggest.

That 1000 sample poll maybe have been done by a very poor sampling technique, and the 300 sample poll may have a superb sampling technique and is actually much more accurate. If you just do a weighted average you let the much poorer sampled poll dominate the result over the much better sampled poll.


14 posted on 02/11/2016 2:25:37 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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I think it is run by the Quisling Hugh Hewitt.


16 posted on 02/11/2016 2:43:49 PM PST by eyeamok
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While on a strictly mathematical scale that holds water... however

For RCP to perform simple weighted averaging would also fly in the face of statiscal anlysis theory.

To go deeper on only one level is improper. They would need to do whole scale secondary analysis to compensate for adjusted MOE, modeling, and assignment of confidence category.

Its not intended to be a holistic reanalysis. It’s a snapshot. No need to make a mountain out of a molehill IMO.


18 posted on 02/11/2016 2:46:04 PM PST by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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Never made much sense to me - doesn’t take into account what the current trend is.....


20 posted on 02/11/2016 4:22:59 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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>> The poll of 2000 voters has way more weight than the one of 100 voters <<

You obviously know little or nothing about mathematical statistics and sampling theory. The size of a sample has no significant bearing on the predicted mean, only on the standard deviation. It’s one of the first things you’re taught in any introductory statistics course.


21 posted on 02/11/2016 4:23:07 PM PST by Hawthorn
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If 30% of 2000 voters and 15% of 100 voters favor Trump, the correct average is:

(30% x 2000) + (15% x 100) = 600 + 15 = 615 voters out of 2100 = 29.3%

One can normalize the percentages by making an assumption that 15% of 100 could be extrapolated to 15% of 2000 to give 300.Then 600 + 300 = 900 out of 4000. And 900/4000 = 22.5%

22 posted on 02/11/2016 4:35:53 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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