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Trump Moves to the Center: I Support Amnesty
Director Blue ^ | 1/13/2016 | Marc Thiessen

Posted on 02/12/2016 2:12:41 PM PST by conservativejoy

Trump's supporters loved his promise this week to create a "deportation force” to remove all 11 million illegal immigrants living in America, and his repeated declaration that everyone here illegally will “have to go."

But his supporters tend to overlook is his other promise - repeated in a recent debate - that under his immigration plan "they will come back."

That's right. Under Trump's immigration plan almost all of 11 million illegal aliens (save for a small minority with criminal records) will get to return and get permanent legal status to stay here in America.

Trump supports amnesty.

On the Kelly File Thursday, Trump's son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:

The point isn't just deporting them, it's deporting them and letting them back in legally. He's been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but its deporting them and letting them back legally.

Eric Trump is right. His father has been crystal clear that he wants all the illegals to return and live in America.

Listen closely to what Trump is actually proposing. In an interview with CNN's Dana Bash earlier this year, Trump explained his plan this way:

I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal. A lot of these people are helping us ... and sometimes it's jobs a citizen of the United States doesn't want to do. I want to move 'em out, and we're going to move 'em back in and let them be legal.

This is a policy called "touchback" and it was first proposed in 2007 by moderate Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX). She offered a "touchback" amendment on the Senate floor that would have required illegal immigrants to return to their home countries to apply for a special "Z visa" that would allow them to reenter the United States in an expedited fashion and work here indefinitely.

Her amendment lost by a relatively close margin, 53-45. It was supported by most Republicans and even got five Democratic votes - Sens. Claire McCaskill, Max Baucus, Jon Tester, Byron Dorgan and John Rockefeller all voted for it.

The idea was considered so reasonable that in an April 22, 2007 editorial entitled "Progress on Immigration," the New York Times declared:

It's not ideal, but if a touchback provision is manageable and reassures people that illegal immigrants are indeed going to the back of the line, then it will be defensible.

So what Trump is proposing today - sending illegal immigrants back to their home countries and then allowing the "good ones" to return in an "expedited" fashion - was endorsed by the liberal New York Times!

In fact, the idea even got the support of - wait for it - illegal immigrants.

In 2007, the Los Angeles Times did the first telephone poll of illegal immigrants and asked whether they would go home under a "touchback" law that allowed them to return with legal status. Sixty-three percent said yes, 27% said no and 10% were undecided. If they were promised a path to citizenship when they returned, the number who said they would leave and return legally grew to 85%.

Donald Trump's detractors were aghast at his invocation during the Fox Business debate of President Dwight D. Eisenhower's "Operation Wetback" which forcibly removed 1.5 million illegal immigrants, and his promise the following day to establish a "deportation force" to remove the 11 million illegal immigrants living in America today.

Never mind the fact that we already have a "deportation force" - it's called US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

The fact is, Trump won't need a "deportation force" or an "Operation Wetback" to get illegal immigrants to go home - because he has promised that they can return quickly with legal status.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants say they would voluntarily cooperate with Trump's plan.

If anything, the "touchback" plan Trump endorses was attacked by conservatives back in 2007. In an editorial, National Review called touchback a "fraud" that gives illegal aliens “their own privileged pathway” ahead of "applicants who have complied with US immigration laws."

That is precisely what Trump is proposing. Under his plan, illegal aliens don't have to go to the end of the line behind those who have complied with our immigration laws. They get an "expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal." They get to cut the line and then stay in America.

So if you get past Trump's bluster, the plan he is proposing is so liberal that it earned the support of the New York Times and the opposition of National Review.

The reason is simple: Trump's plan is in fact a form of amnesty - you just have to leave the country briefly to get it.

So when Trump says of illegal immigrants "they all have to go," don't overlook the fact that under his plan almost all would be able to immediately return – and stay.

This means there is very little difference between his plan and what John Kasich and Jeb Bush are supporting.

And most of his supporters don't even realize it.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansentor; amnesty; bs; cjtds; gangof14post; propagandadujour; tedspacificpartners; theycomeoutatnight; trump; usualsuspect
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1 posted on 02/12/2016 2:12:41 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: conservativejoy

This is the most insane aspect if Trump’s policy. Let’s invite back millions of new Democrat voters.

Cruz says he won’t let them back in. If we have to deport people who have broken our laws, they should NOT be allowed back in.


2 posted on 02/12/2016 2:14:24 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: conservativejoy

You spoiled where you eat a long time ago. I no longer go to your links or your vanity threads or much else.


3 posted on 02/12/2016 2:15:00 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: conservativejoy

I don’t trust this guy. I don’t believe him. I’ll believe a carnival barker telling me I can win the stuffed doggie first.


4 posted on 02/12/2016 2:15:40 PM PST by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: conservativejoy

Before Trumpy is done.... he isn’t even going to deport them. He’ll just legalize them, and then start the wall discussions.


5 posted on 02/12/2016 2:16:21 PM PST by kjam22 (America needs forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: conservativejoy

He never didn’t support amnesty.


6 posted on 02/12/2016 2:17:46 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: conservativejoy

He never didn’t support amnesty.


7 posted on 02/12/2016 2:17:48 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: conservativejoy

Some people only see what they want to see and ignore that is right in front of them.

Cruz want legal immigration level tied to the number of Americans not in the workforce. Much stronger than what Trump has proposed with his touch and go amnesty.


8 posted on 02/12/2016 2:18:04 PM PST by Leto
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To: conservativejoy

Some people only see what they want to see and ignore that is right in front of them.

Cruz want legal immigration level tied to the number of Americans not in the workforce. Much stronger than what Trump has proposed with his touch and go amnesty.


9 posted on 02/12/2016 2:18:04 PM PST by Leto
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To: conservativejoy

Most of his building management staff are probably illegals. Porters, maids, dishwashers, waiters, etc.


10 posted on 02/12/2016 2:18:13 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: conservativejoy

Center of WHAT?


11 posted on 02/12/2016 2:18:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: conservativejoy
The idiocy of what Trump says is the illegals who haven't broken the law can get in line to come back. Let that sink in just a bit.

I think the ones who have worked for him probably will get pushed to the front of the line.

12 posted on 02/12/2016 2:18:27 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Trump to McCain - "Pass the strawberries".)
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To: conservativejoy
He was clearly referring to their coming back through the legal procedures provided for in the immigration laws.

Nice but less than honest try.

13 posted on 02/12/2016 2:18:50 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: AmericanVictory

Well, if Trump could speak in complete sentences his fan club wouldn’t have to come out and explain it.


14 posted on 02/12/2016 2:20:13 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Trump to McCain - "Pass the strawberries".)
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To: AmericanVictory

Trump specifies an “expedited” process for bringing back the illegals. This is Touch Back Amnesty. Trump is no better on illegal immigration than the Gang of 8 was, or a Jeb Bush policy.


15 posted on 02/12/2016 2:21:23 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: miss marmelstein
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16 posted on 02/12/2016 2:22:30 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: nickcarraway

You are right. He has always supported amnesty, so why are those who want something done about illegal immigration supporting Trump?


17 posted on 02/12/2016 2:22:34 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: conservativejoy

18 posted on 02/12/2016 2:22:41 PM PST by kik5150 (Cruz argued 9 times before Supreme Court judges. Trump argues with beauty pageant judges.)
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To: conservativejoy
This is the most insane aspect if Trump’s policy. Let’s invite back millions of new Democrat voters.

He said "legal."

He also specifically denied they will become citizens. Not that I expect truth from you people....

19 posted on 02/12/2016 2:23:20 PM PST by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: conservativejoy

I don’t even bother to correct the lies any more. There will always be more. If people told the truth about Trump’s positions, they’d help him climb in the polls. Can’t do that, so lie.


20 posted on 02/12/2016 2:23:23 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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