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1,100 year-old Denmark crucifix ‘may change history’
www.thelocal.dk ^ | 03-17-2016 | Staff

Posted on 03/17/2016 12:25:44 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger
the first half of the 10th century BCE,

So, a 3000 year old crucifix, eh? Will wonders never cease...

21 posted on 03/17/2016 12:49:46 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Jedidah

Oh, silly me. I read the original article and now I see what you mean. My bad!


22 posted on 03/17/2016 12:50:50 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: MNJohnnie

I don’t see any nails. I do see some things that might be either bracelets, or possibly could be ropes tying the hands to something, but no nails.


23 posted on 03/17/2016 12:51:11 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Red Badger

Is that a chain mail vest?


24 posted on 03/17/2016 12:57:03 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: dp0622

Curious the heart shaped head of the stylized figure. Would a heart symbol have been understood by that culture at that time? “God is love”?

Not to mention that sometimes echos of Christ have shown up in other faiths; complaints about such Christ-similar figures of historical devotion as Mithras supposedly showing Christian faith to be untrue presume that faith is purely a manmade function. But if faith is a supernaturally driven, revealed function, then our classic bible accounts do not have to explicitly tell of either every possible real, or rival imitation, revelation.

This adds to the pool of possibilities to explain the figure, which would indeed make a pretty cookie.


25 posted on 03/17/2016 12:58:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Boogieman

There are little dots that look like nail heads but they appear on the periphery of the figure. The whole thing is done in an ornate style.

Could someone with an incomplete or inaccurate account of the Crucifixion come up with a depiction like this? Maybe. The bible doesn’t spell out a lot of details about how Jesus was crucified, and I take it that other accounts of crucifixions have informed modern Christian ideas. One possibility is that the arms of Jesus were tied to the cross prior to nailing the hands (or arms).

It might have to remain a mystery until and unless more similar material, perhaps with associated text, is unearthed.


26 posted on 03/17/2016 1:05:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Red Badger

Looks like a baby in a papoose to me.
Hands tucked in the pockets. Legs in pockets with booties sticking out.


27 posted on 03/17/2016 1:08:12 PM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Red Badger
I am confused. The headline says it is 1,100 years old, then the article says "This is a sensational find that dates from the first half of the 10th century BCE,” Beck told DR. So, that would make it something like 3,000 years old, and over a thousand years before Christ. And how do they know how old it is?
28 posted on 03/17/2016 1:11:04 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ('''Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: Vigilanteman

“Maybe. Or maybe it is just something that Viking raiders found attractive when they were pillaging Christian lands circa 900 ad.”

Yep!


29 posted on 03/17/2016 1:23:06 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Vigilanteman

That would be my guess....................


30 posted on 03/17/2016 1:27:20 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Left doesn't like him and the Right doesn't like him, so he must be the right guy for the job...)
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To: BeauBo

Looks like it. It may be some warrior’s good luck charm.................


31 posted on 03/17/2016 1:29:29 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Left doesn't like him and the Right doesn't like him, so he must be the right guy for the job...)
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To: truth_seeker
That is widely claimed but, even if true, this figurine would be about a century older.

It is known that Greenland was settled by Norse (including both Norwegians and Icelandic) who arrived in a fleet of 25 ships about 985 a.d. The conversion to Christianity took place some years after that, whether before the turn of the century voyage and brief settlement in Vinland (modern Newfoundland) or after, there is no definite archaeological evidence.

The earliest known church which was has been discovered was built was about a century later, though most archaeologists believe it was build on the site of an earlier temporary structure some years earlier.

Their Icelandic homeland doesn't provide many clues either, as the Hiberno-Scottish monks were gone by 874 ad, when the first Norse arrives. Quite likely conversion was a gradual process which happened early in the 11th century by trade contacts between their Icelandic cousins at the descendants of the Hiberno-Scottish peoples of northern Scotland and the Orkney's who had abandoned their Iceland settlement years or even decades before the first Norse arrived in 874 ad but still had seafaring and trading skills almost equal to the vikings.

Do you know of any hard evidence that Leif Ericsson was Christian, or is it mostly anecdotal?

32 posted on 03/17/2016 1:31:36 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Red Badger

Well, it isn’t Jesus . Next guess ! I showed the picture to my wife, with no info about the claim it was a crucifix. I asked her, “What do you think? “ She replied, “ South American “ . That was my initial thought too. Looks like possible mail or other armor and I think he has feathers to represent wings. Then again, I said the bumps were a sure sign that he was reptilian.

Extra! This just in. On further review, it’s an owl man.


33 posted on 03/17/2016 1:32:22 PM PDT by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: Red Badger

That looks more Central American than Viking.

Crosses have been in use for a lot longer than Christianity.


34 posted on 03/17/2016 1:39:11 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

If the previously-oldest Christian artifact in Denmark is from 965, and this piece is from the “first half of the 10th Century,” then that places Christian articles (if not Christians) in Denmark 16 to 65 years earlier than previously believed.

It’s interesting, but hardly earth-shaking. Finding something earlier than the previously-earliest happens all the time.


35 posted on 03/17/2016 1:39:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The world is full of wonder, but you see it only if you look." ~NicknamedBob)
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To: Yo-Yo

Which was the tenth century.


36 posted on 03/17/2016 1:41:14 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: dp0622

You made me laugh with that one, thank you!


37 posted on 03/17/2016 1:46:31 PM PDT by lilypad
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I dont see how this can be considered a crucifix at all.

It can be considered a crucifix because to do so would discredit Christianity? Don't you get it?

38 posted on 03/17/2016 1:48:40 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Red Badger
“This is a sensational find that dates from the first half of the 10th century BCE,”

I prefer, and will continue to use, the term BC (Before Christ) rather than the politically correct BCE (Before Common Era), which is used in the never ending effort to secularize everything.

39 posted on 03/17/2016 1:57:05 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Vigilanteman

That was my first thought, but it does seem to be done in the Norse/Danish style. Maybe some Danish artist was inspired by a looted crucifix.


40 posted on 03/17/2016 2:26:31 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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