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Immigrant who lied to join marines is naturalized: 'Now the law's on my side'
The Guardian ^ | 23 Apr 2016 | Griselda Nevarez

Posted on 04/24/2016 8:37:41 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: Regulator

Whose side did the Japanese Americans, Italian Americans, or German Americans fight on?


21 posted on 04/24/2016 10:13:58 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The biggest problem with any kind of immigration is that people want to come to the USA because it is a better place to live, but then they think trying to make it more like the place they came from will improve it.

Savage has it right on this: borders, language, culture.

Unfortunately, this will have to be a motto for whatever nation rises from the ash heap of this once great nation.


22 posted on 04/24/2016 10:22:11 AM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Aren’t foreigners allowed to serve ? I though that was how Arnold gained citizenship, by joining the US Army, in Europe.
I know some Fillipinos who say they got their citizenship by serving in the US Navy.

I understand the problem with falsification, clearly a separate issue.

Thanks, to all.


23 posted on 04/24/2016 10:30:53 AM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: Regulator
He already stated that he felt, and feels, more American than Mexican.

My point is that the man served while millions have not. He put his life on the line for a country and a cause that really was not his. To me, that is bravery and honor. This Marine displayed ideals and virtues that I, for one, applaud.

24 posted on 04/24/2016 10:46:33 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: Regulator

One other point.....and this is, of course, subject to the scenario woven to fit a particular situation, if a Marine is ordered to fire on American citizens, what Marine worthy of the title would do so? We are NOT talking about Americans who have given over to the Dark Side, as in joining ISIS or any other anti-American group or entity or Americans justifiably rebelling against a tyrannical government domestically.


25 posted on 04/24/2016 10:54:11 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: Drew68
Me thinks that is already happening and it's not about to stop.
26 posted on 04/24/2016 11:02:44 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: kabar
He must have had a security clearance. The background check he received to enter the USMC did not discover the bogus BC.

The background check done when joining is not as thorough as a background check done for a security clearance. You only get a secret or top secret clearance if needed for your particular MOS or AFSC. Has this individual needed a secret clearance, that background check would have uncovered his fraud. I only had one post 9/11 secret clearance update and I answered a lot more questions on that one. No way he had a secret clearance.

27 posted on 04/24/2016 1:25:19 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Welcome home brother. I am an alumnus of 1/77 Armor and 1/61 Mech. Inf. 69-71 to include Lam Son 719.


28 posted on 04/24/2016 2:48:30 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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I doubt he needed a secret clearance, but no doubt he had access to at least confidential material and information classified as NOFORN. I have held Top Secret and SCI clearances. Usually, a re-investigation is every ten years for Secret/Confidential and five years for Top Secret. It varies by agency. I served 36 years total in the Navy and State Department.

Regardless, this guy should not have been in the USMC and once the fraud was detected, he should not have been given an HD. Also, he would have had to submit an SSN in addition to a birth certificate. Here are the crimes he was progably guilty of:

False Personation of a U.S. Citizen (18 U.S.C. § 911). Illegal aliens often present themselves as U.S. citizens, an act punishable by up to five years in jail, a felony. This law is often cited in immigration prosecutions and may involve, for example, an alien claiming U.S. citizenship to his employer.

Fraud and False Statements (18 U.S.C. § 1001). It is common for illegal aliens to make false statements to the government or on official documents. An illegal alien violates this law when claiming to be a U.S. citizen on an I-9 Employment Eligibility form and faces a fine and up to five years imprisonment.

Social Security Fraud (42 U.S.C. § 408). This statute has been invoked where an illegal alien provided a false Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a job, where an illegal alien used a fraudulent Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a driver's license, and when an illegal alien used a Social Security card belonging to a citizen in order to obtain Section 8 housing, for example. Violation of this statute can result in a fine and/or imprisonment up to five years. The court can also require violators to provide restitution to the victims.

29 posted on 04/24/2016 3:15:34 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Drew68

There were units in Iraq that were almost entirely Mexican.

They were support units, but they could not speak English AT ALL.

I oppose primitive 3rd worlders buying entry into my country by any means.


30 posted on 04/25/2016 10:08:33 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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