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Microsoft is giving up on consumer smartphones, too
ReCode ^ | MAY 25, 2016, 5:00A | BY INA FRIED

Posted on 05/25/2016 1:02:24 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: TexasRepublic
My old laptop upgraded to Win 10 last night. I have other devices already on Windows 10, so I was prepared for the initial "press this, press that". After that, the new operating system worked pretty well; all my stuff was where I left it, all the old programs worked, etc. And the machine seems a little faster, which is probably from the comparison to Win 7, which really has not been supported lately.

Microsoft can do a good job when it does the stuff it knows how to do.

21 posted on 05/25/2016 2:43:06 PM PDT by Bernard (The Road To Hell Is Not Paved With Good Results)
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To: Swordmaker
If memory serves, CNBC puts the number at 7800, including all the former Nokia employees from that acquisition.

22 posted on 05/25/2016 3:05:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: Bernard

Happily, all of the applications and printer still worked after this hijack of this machine. And yes, Microsoft can sometimes write some pretty good code after several attempts. But that is not my point - arrogant Microsoft has mistreated their customers for many years. I have used their OS since DOS 2.10. I evolved over time from being a big fan to a severe critic because of the way they treat their customers. In my determination to escape Microsoft and its abuses, I found some software that I actually prefer using more: Linux.


23 posted on 05/25/2016 3:06:12 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: SunkenCiv
memory serves, CNBC puts the number at 7800, including all the former Nokia employees from that acquisition.

I think that may be the total to date. . . Do you remember the acquisition cost?

24 posted on 05/25/2016 3:36:58 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: TexasRepublic

It’s worse than rape. We only use our desktops to access the internet and to store software which we then enter data in and transmit. We set all our computers to no downloads without asking and then when each person goes home for the day they unhook their computer from the internet. Not much else I know to do. Hopefully that will help some.

The computers with all our data are laptops and they aren’t even connected to the internet. Takes a little more time for everyone to do their work but at least we know client’s and patient’s information cannot be accessed that way.


25 posted on 05/25/2016 4:57:54 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Swordmaker

Dunno, but I’d guess it not be cheap.


26 posted on 05/25/2016 11:51:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: Swordmaker; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; amigatec; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ...
Microsoft exiting the consumer phone business? ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

Thanks to Swordmaker for the ping!!

27 posted on 05/26/2016 4:47:51 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Crolis

From ATT?


28 posted on 05/26/2016 5:04:25 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: dayglored

Thanks for the ping.


29 posted on 05/26/2016 6:18:00 AM PDT by RebelTex (Jus Soli + Jus Sanguinis = NBC)
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To: Crolis

I am not surprised they are continuing to focus on corporate customers. Ultimately, that is their biggest market. Exchange is one of the most important things Microsoft sells from a Microsoft point of view, because it facilitates a lot of their vendor lock-in strategy.


30 posted on 05/26/2016 6:37:53 AM PDT by zeugma
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To: Swordmaker

Microsoft blew 3 billion buying Nokia. I knew this was stupid move when it took place.
But what do they care. MS has 100 billion in cash offshore and tens of billions held in the USA

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2014
In its latest regulatory filing, the software giant said it has now stockpiled $92.9 billion offshore and that this money could have cost the company $29.6 billion in taxes, but didn’t.
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Moody´s: Microsoft, Apple and Google´s Combined Cash Reserves Close to $400 Billion
winbuzzer.com · 1 day ago
Microsoft, alongside Apple and Google, holds 23% of all corporate cash in the United States, with other companies


31 posted on 05/26/2016 6:46:53 AM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: Excellence

I’ve had lumias for 3 years now — I really like my current phone and the previous phone


32 posted on 05/26/2016 7:13:19 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Excellence

It’s an unlocked phone direct from Microsoft. You could use it on AT&T or T-mobile in the USA or probably any of the smaller carriers who use GSM.

I’ve heard rumors that Microsoft was going to release a version compatible with Verizon bands but I’m not sure if that will happen.

Personally, I think they should have released it supporting every band, much like Apple does with their iPhone and let people decide. Of course it’s still up to the network provider to permit the phone to connect.


33 posted on 05/26/2016 7:42:17 AM PDT by Crolis ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." -GKC)
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To: Grams A

“We set all our computers to no downloads without asking and then when each person goes home for the day they unhook their computer from the internet. Not much else I know to do. Hopefully that will help some.”

Here is a suggestion for you. A legendary programmer named Steve Gibson has written a utility to prevent unwanted upgrades to Windows 10. It will also erase any Windows 10 install files that have been secretly downloaded to your computer before the unwanted upgrade happens. Gibson used to write commercial utility programs such as the disk utility named SpinRite. Most of the software he writes now is free to the world, as this is.

https://www.grc.com/never10.htm


34 posted on 05/26/2016 8:09:47 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: dennisw; SunkenCiv
Microsoft blew 3 billion buying Nokia. I knew this was stupid move when it took place.
But what do they care. MS has 100 billion in cash offshore and tens of billions held in the USA

What? Did you pull that figure out of thin air? It was $7.2 and change for Microsoft to acquire the mobile division of Nokia, not $3 billion.

35 posted on 05/26/2016 8:14:51 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks for the correction. You are correct!

7.2 billions flushed down the toilet by Steve Balmer I suppose


36 posted on 05/26/2016 8:42:38 AM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: Swordmaker

http://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/phone-deal-with-nokia-became-microsofts-10-billion-mistake/

Phone deal with Nokia became Microsoft’s $10 billion mistake
May 25, 2016

When Microsoft bought Nokia’s phone unit, then-Chief Executive Steve Ballmer touted the deal as a move that “strengthens us as a company in so many ways.”

Instead, the acquisition seems destined to be remembered as one of the company’s largest strategic missteps, a costly failure to boost Microsoft’s weak standing in mobile computing.

Since the $7.9 billion purchase of Nokia handset business was sealed in April 2014, Microsoft has laid off thousands of employees at manufacturing plants and research facilities from Redmond to Finland to China.


37 posted on 05/26/2016 8:45:13 AM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: Swordmaker

All in all Microsoft squandered 10 billion dollars on Nokia!!!!

Like I said I knew it was pos deal when it was done in 2013. Why? Because the Asians were becoming ascendant in the smart phone business and were eating Nokia alive. Nokia’s day was during the age of cell phones. This was when they reigned supreme.

Nokia honchos were overjoyed when the ridiculous Steve Ballmer showed up to buy up their business.


38 posted on 05/26/2016 8:50:31 AM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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7.2 billions flushed down the toilet by Steve Balmer I suppose

Nope, can't lay this rotten egg at Steve Balmer's feet. He resigned as CEO of Microsoft effective December 2013 and resigned from the Board of Directors in August 2014.

Microsoft announced the start of the Nokia acquisition in September of 2014. . . after Balmer was gone. Looks like he didn't want to have anything to do with it.

$10 billion is probably about right, now that I think about it.

39 posted on 05/26/2016 9:08:49 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: dennisw
Since the $7.9 billion purchase of Nokia handset business was sealed in April 2014, Microsoft has laid off thousands of employees at manufacturing plants and research facilities from Redmond to Finland to China.

Oops. The article I was referencing claimed September 2014. . . but it was actually September 2013 when Microsoft made their Nokia acquisition announcement. So it WAS a Balmer fiasco! Sorry about that Dennis. Another commentary on the state of Journalism today.

My apologies for correcting you when it was YOU who was correct.

40 posted on 05/26/2016 9:14:23 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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