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To: proxy_user
When I had access to usenet, there were a lot of people claiming they were victims of MKUltra. They did sound delusional or just plain crazy the way they expressed themselves and what they claimed.

I had a friend who suffered from schizophrenia, she kind of latched onto me, and showed up at my house one night saying that 50 or so FBI agents had followed her to my house and were outside. I defused it by telling her to show me where they are and I will go out and talk to them. That was the end of that one with me. But she frightened me, and I couldn't get any help or advice, no shelter would take her in, I did not want to go to sleep with my three children and her chain smoking, afraid she would set the house on fire or worse. I called my dad and he came over and gave me enough money to get her a hotel/motel room. I called, found a decent hotel downtown, took her down there and paid. The next day or so she was seen getting on a plane. It took months for mental health to catch up with her (and she had children in care of the state at that point). They finally got her committed over running up her charge cards. It was sad really. She eventually got custody of her youngest daughter but died of cancer before the little girl was grown.

Two people I read about cured themselves. One was killed with his wife eventually in a taxi taking them home from an airport in New Jersey, a university mathematition. The other person was female, years ago, she was institutionalized and somehow managed to cure herself. She ended up as administrator of the institution, somewhere out east.

Who knows? One person shared their story, she asked if I'd heard of Project Blue Beam. Yes, but I didn't know what it was.

The following might or might not be a credible site. No credible outlet is going to write any version other than what the NYT did. The person mentioned I believe was a Quebecois who did investigative research according to wiki, hard to find credible sources. The photo could be real or fake, I saw it before, sure some of you have, too. Maybe some of it is true, break down a person's mind, destroy their religion and form a new world order one. If there is anything to it, there are probably more apps than that. Some of it could be experimental. Or a delusion as a result of mental illness.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/project-blue-beam-conspiracy-theory-suggests-nasa-has-secret-plans-to-create-new-world-order/news-story/25266f2c57e89e139f0fa9daddeb0953

17 posted on 06/10/2016 7:47:27 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

This begins a four part comment on Obama’s pronouncement that World Leaders are now rattled by Donald Trump. As POTUS, Mr. Trump will save the US from coming under the future rule of a New World Order and One World Government controlled by a powerful international elite to which these World Leaders belong. A One World Government would fulfill a decades-long plan devised by Austrian diplomat and Freemason, Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi (1894-1972) regarded as the founding father of the current European Union although not much is known about him today.

His 1925 book ‘Practical Idealism (Praktischer Idealismus) sets out his plan for a United Europe, backed by the Vatican, under a centralized unelected government envisioned as the prototype for the US and the rest of the world when a New World Order is finalized. It’s simply not possible to buy this book today. It is censored in Germany despite not being present on the official list of books censored by the German government!

The essence of Kalergi’s Plan is outlined by Austrian writer Gerd Honsik: “Kalergi proclaims the abolition of the right of self-determination and, subsequently, the elimination of nations by means of ethnic separatist movements or mass allogeneic (genetically dissimilar) immigration in order to create a multiethnic flock without quality, easily controllable by the ruling class. Kalergi characterized the resulting multiethnic flock as cruel and unfaithful but maintained the elite must still deliberately create them in order to achieve their own superiority: ‘Then the elite will first eliminate democracy – the rule of the people. Next, the elite will eliminate the people via miscegenation, thereby replacing the ruling white race with an easily controllable mestizo race. By abolishing the principle of equality of all before the law, avoiding and punishing any criticism of minorities, and protecting minorities with special laws, the masses will be suppressed.’”

Part II – World Leaders rattled!
Kalergi’s ideas were the basis for the European Union’s policy of high levels of immigration combined with laws protecting these migrants under the guise of humanitarianism aimed at destroying European identity and creating a single race under the rule of the elite, i.e., white genocide! The European Union has been indoctrinating Europeans to tolerate and accept politically correct multiculturalism and infiltration via forced mass migration of hordes of Africans and Asians with the real goal being to completely denature the European people by converting them into a collection of individuals with no ethnic, historical or cultural cohesion. The initial low birth rate justification has now been replaced with Merkel’s ‘All Refugees Welcome’ declaration, thereby speeding up the process.

Western Europe’s current political leaders know full well that Kalergi was the author of the European Union. It was he who suggested Beethoven’s hymn as the EU’s national anthem and he was very active in connection with the design of the EU logo. Europe’s Coudenhove-Kalergi prize was created in his honor to be awarded to Europeans who have excelled in promoting his depraved plan. Better known today as The Charlemagne Prize, the official p.c. description is: “for those able to exercise a political influence and make an outstanding contribution to the process of European integration.” Among those awarded this prize are Angela Merkel, Herman Van Rompuy (former Prime Minister of Belgium and first President of the European Council) and this year’s recipient Pope Francis.

Part III – World Leaders rattled
President John F. Kennedy said in an address on Freemasonry to newspaper publishers on April 27, 1961: “The very word ‘secrecy’ is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers cited to justify it.” (No wonder he was assassinated and I fear there is now a high danger of Mr. Trump being eliminated in the exact same way.)

In his book Kissinger on the Couch (1975), Rear Admiral Chester Ward, Former Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy and CFR member for sixteen years, stated: “The CFR has as a goal submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government. In the entire CFR lexicon there is no term of revulsion carrying a meaning as deep as ‘America First’” That is the very term now frequently being used by Mr. Trump, in conjunction with ‘Make America Great Again.’ Ward also says in this book: “Once the ruling members of the CFR have decided the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of the CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition.”

Part IV
The underlying truth behind the politically correct ‘diversity’ and ‘multicultural’ labels, as well as the ‘racist’ and ‘Islamophobia’ charges, occasionally leaks out. In 1955, G. Brock Chisholm, a known Kalergi disciple and former director of the World Health Organization, said: “In all places, people must practice the limitation of births so as to create a single race in a new world that is dependent on a central authority.” Under the media’s dual pressure of misinformation and the propaganda of humanitarianism, Europeans and the rest of the West are being induced and pressured to deny their origins as some kind of progressive humanitarian act and to believe that holding onto their origins and cultural identity is ‘racism’ except, of course, for the elite who will remain entrenched at the top.

America, formerly the home of the brave and the free has become the home of those who think they are free. None are more enslaved and manipulated than those who think they are free. The threat is whatever the Ministry of Truth and the complicit news media says it is. This is behind the agenda to have all guns banned so that those who would resist will have been totally disarmed. Next is to have the people accept solutions to problems that will instigate the changes the government wanted but which the people would have initially been unwilling to accept. This is intended to likewise lead to worldwide solutions which will firmly establish a One World Order.


18 posted on 06/10/2016 8:02:52 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.")
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To: Aliska

Re the link: If it happens, “test the spirits to see if they are of God.” Many instances of this testing are recorded in the Word, when people got a “visitation”. The ancients knew about mental illness and/or evil spirits, and how to test for them.


19 posted on 06/10/2016 8:11:50 PM PDT by Bethaneidh (Likely to annoy someone every time. Get over it.)
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To: Aliska

“...she was institutionalized and somehow managed to cure herself. She ended up as administrator of the institution, somewhere out east.”

She didn’t get cured, they just promoted from the inside.


28 posted on 06/10/2016 9:12:32 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Aliska

My mom’s doctor wrote a book telling the story of how he cured his mother in law’s schizophrenia. She had been suffering since his wife was a teenager, he used nutrition to heal her brain. Wish I could remember the name of either the book or the doctor.

I think that sometimes crazy behavior is actually demonic influence/possession. A psychiatrist friend who is also a Christian says he can tell the difference between mental illness and demonic influence as he sees both admitted to the hospital.


30 posted on 06/10/2016 9:44:01 PM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: Aliska
Two people I read about cured themselves. One was killed with his wife eventually in a taxi taking them home from an airport in New Jersey, a university mathematition [...]

Sounds like an interesting story. Could make a good movie. Maybe starring Russell Crowe?

Seriously: Why so cagey?

Regards,

31 posted on 06/10/2016 9:57:11 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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