Not guilty.
Posted on 07/02/2016 5:24:38 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
If you read my post in any objective manner, you would see that I disagree with 3 administrations who tried to turn this area around without success. If you think modern day Times Square is a fine place to hang out, so be it. I think it is just as awful as it was in the 1960s - only with worse lighting, terrible chain restaurants, national brand name stores instead of the great mom and pop stores of yore and our own, indigenous bad restaurants. If we’re going to do terrible, let’s do New York terrible: Tad’s Steakhouse, the Kon Tiki Room and the late, lamented China Bowl.
Please keep your personal abuse to a minimum, thank you.
Not guilty.
I'd rather start and concentrate on the clinton crime family. Naked con men can wait.
Yep. I understand people disagreeing. But what gives with the abusive posts toward me for posting this point of view? Really? We have sure slipped off of the edge in this country....
At least prosecute him for public nudity. Isn’t that inappropriate, especially with children around? Oh well....I expected some of the responses as FR is not what it used to be.
Giuliani did not close off Broadway, Bloomberg did.
What’s more, the area has been turned around with great success.
When the Giuliani administration successfully broke up the porn shops, zoning them out of Times Square, coupled with policing quality of life crimes, the area transformed.
It is not by any stretch of the imagination as awful as it was in the 80s. You say it’s as bad as it was in the late 60s. Were you there in the 60s? If so, can I assume that you are in your 70s or close to that age?
I don’t know about the 60s, but I know that in the 80s 42nd Street was a scary place, filled with (as I said) drug addicts, prostitutes, bums, petty criminals and porn shops/theatres. If you went into Port Authority after midnight, you heard wailing and gnashing of teeth. Bryant Park behind the library was needle park, filled with passed out junkies and alcoholics and prostitutes.
Once again, Giuliani did not close off Broadway to car traffic, Bloomberg did. You unfairly link these three administrations in this regard.
Even Manny the Hippie had his standards. When Letterman
asked him if he went to nude beaches; Manny answered,
“No Man! I look better in threads!”
First of all, you do not have to be in your 70s to remember Times Square in the 60s. I was born and raised in New York. I remember that area as a small child when going to the Port Authority to visit family in NJ or attending Broadway shows and eating in restaurants afterwards. So let’s not get ‘age-ist’ as well as using other insults.
Guiliani was very successful in removing crime. But in the process, he remade a Times Square that once had a logical architectural structure suited to our fair city and changed it into a Tokyo that would have intimidated Godzilla. Gone were so many local shops that were replaced by bland chain stores that do not serve the ordinary New Yorkers who live and work in the area once the tourists go home. Small restaurants were replaced by awful national chains like Olive Garden, Ruby Foo’s and others that gave tourists nothing but the same kind of experience they could have in a strip mall. (I said all this in my original post, btw.)
Bloomberg making a pedestrian mall - as if this city is designed like Florence or Rome - was another disaster. I doubt it’s stopped air pollution; in fact, with all the stalled traffic emitting noxious emissions, I’m sure it’s worse than when NYC was coal-fueled. Not to mention the aggravation added to the lives of people travelling to shows (working in shows!) and making their way to the Port Authority and Penn Station after a hard day at work.
DeBlasio (I guess it was him) allowing half naked women and that foolish Naked Cowboy so dear to the hearts of ladies from Alabama to roam the pedestrian plaza further turned Times Square back into the Midnight Cowboy era we all got fed up with in the 70s. Leaving a friend’s show last Saturday night and forcing our way through TS was like living in a Hieronymous Bosch vivant tableau.
If that’s what you like, you’ve got it. I don’t. But I suspect you will win the argument with the authorities and city planners and I won’t.
Many years ago when I was in art school, my life and object drawing instructor told me that centuries ago people would be waiting outside my door to see me walk out because I looked like the Kritios Boy. Now, they’d be looking at The Venus of Willendorf.
FR has changed. Lately, I only understand the folks who’ve been here for over 10 years and with whom I’ve been friends with. I give as good as I get but I’ve also been cursed at here in the last year and accused of being a liberal for simply giving a different point of view. It’s a microcosm of the brave new world, I guess.
Not straight.
Probably will have to release him for insufficient evidence. ;-)
He likes guys
The removal of small businesses and their replacement by chains isn’t just happening in Times Square but all over Manhattan, indeed, all over America. Sorry, but you can’t pin that on Giuliani. All I know is that Times Square is safe and, for the most part, family friendly. As for the bosomy painted ladies, they are now in a restricted space, as are as well the grabby Elmos. BTW, Giuliani is also not responsible for them. Yes, I like Times Square a hell of a lot more than I did in the 80s. Bryant Park is world class; Port Authority much improved; no broken glass, used needles or used condoms on 42nd Street.
He should be forced to pay for all the extra police time required to deal with his hours-long performance.
I’d send him a bill for the cops’ time and anything else that can be added to the tab. Idiots like this do what they do in public just to get a rise out of anyone with a sense of conventional morality. Garnish Sweetcheeks’ wages from his modelling gigs. Libtards only get annoyed when they actually have to pay for something themselves.
As I said, use Times Square and enjoy it. I find it nightmarish and distinctly child-unfriendly.
BTW, the worst part of Times Square in the old days was that block from Broadway to 8th Avenue on 42nd. If you avoided that, you were fine. I do miss the old Metropole which Holly Golightly visited after she sent her husband packing on a Greyhound bus back to the southland. You can still see it during the opening credits of the Odd Couple tv series. In those days, sex was inside not on the streets of the area.
No one here was suggesting that Bryant Park isn’t improved. Bryant Park is not Times Square although it is certainly near it. It’s behind the Library which is on 5th.
Sure, arrest him for public nudity...
I’m surprised they didn’t..
Arrest him for stealing advertising...
Don’t think so...which was the point of your post...
Yep, and it’s not pretty.
We have a winner! ROFL...
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