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To: Fungi

Amazing that seemingly intelligent people would believe that all of this was just random chance.


9 posted on 09/23/2016 4:15:17 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Bingo! Yes, atheists have a god, it is called chance.


10 posted on 09/23/2016 4:16:57 PM PDT by Fungi (Soy sauce, you want soy sauce? Enjoy your soy sauce with all the fungi in it!)
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To: Chainmail

Just a quick post to explain why atheism requires as much faith, if not much more, than a theist.

All atheists posit what’s called a universal negative. A universal negative requires absolute knowledge (omniscience) whereas a universal positive may not require that.

For instance, let’s say I am in a building with 4 rooms, and I have only been in 1 room. In order to say that every room is empty, I would have to have knowledge of all 4 rooms. I would need to know the entirety of what I am claiming to know.

However, to state the opposite, that the building is not empty, I would at the very least only need to know about one room.

So, in essence, any time an atheist claims that there is absolutely no God, they are claiming absolute and full knowledge of the universe (omniscience). If they are not claiming absolute knowledge, than they are going off of faith, but in fact, since they could never EVER know for sure that universal negative, then they are requiring much more faith than a person who claims there is a God (because finding out if there is a God may not require absolute knowledge).

But hey, I don’t need to say it, it was written quite a long time ago “the fool says in his heart ‘There is no God’” (Psalm 14:1)


12 posted on 09/23/2016 4:20:08 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Chainmail

Amazing that seemingly intelligent people would believe that all of this was just random chance.

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Are you saying that time travelers went back and did some biological engineering?

Actually, the only people I see bringing up random chance are they hecklers from the sidelines, not the people doing the methodical hard work.


21 posted on 09/23/2016 4:37:56 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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Random chance had some impact on what you did today. When random chance is confined to exactly what mutations an organism has in its DNA that is the major function controlled by chance alone. As to the survival of that mutation and it’s being passed along to future generation, the role of chance become very low in comparison to the advantage or disadvantage that mutation confers on its organism. If it works, it is retained and passed along. If not, it is discarded. That reflects the limited role of chance — pretty small.


38 posted on 09/23/2016 6:08:37 PM PDT by JimSEA
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