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To: Jim 0216
So if I just truly believe in Christ and have become completely “under Grace”, I can steal, murder, fornicate, do some good deeds now and then to look legit, put myself before anyone else etc... due to the fact that I am too weak to adhere to God's Laws? What difference does it make if I break one law or 20-30 laws at will? After breaking the sin one would just ask for forgiveness and go right back to sinning. Does Grace abound or should Grace tell you to stop? This would require more "things".

Anyway, one would be a Übermensch based on this concept because nihilism (2nd life/Spiritual would overcome nihilism "itself") would pervert Grace due to peddlers like Prince pushing no responsibilities/”wide paths” that lead to destruction/avoidance to God's Will. There is Grace, but also something else to adhere to (Actually two). A lot of Christian Churches have neglected this something else in exchange for "feel good" sophistries for decades.
12 posted on 10/11/2016 5:16:09 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

Yes, despite the possibility that somehow you don’t like it (many don’t because the grace of Christ can be hard to understand or too good to be true), the Bible clearly says that Jesus died for ALL of your sins and the sins of the whole world 2000 years ago.

“He himself [Jesus Christ] is the sacrificial atonement for our sins—and not only our sins but the sins of all the world” 1 John 2:2.

The law was never meant to be kept but to show man his utter inability to be righteous and his need for Christ. The law actually helps you to sin, not because there’s anything wrong with the law, but because there’s everything wrong with us to keep it.

“The strength of sin is the law” 1 Cor 15:56.

“Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith” Gal 3:24.

“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe” Rom 3:21-22.

Your question/statement is exactly what the legalistic Jews challenged Paul with, “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?” Rom 6:1.

Paul answered with, “God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Rom 6:2.

Paul then makes a startling statement, life changing if you let these words from scripture sink deep down into your heart, “For sin shall not have dominion over you: for you are not under the law, but under grace” Rom 6:14.

The gospel of the grace of Christ as expressed here in Romans doesn’t say that you must keep the law in order to not sin. Scripture here is saying basically that it is grace, not the law, that frees you from sin.


15 posted on 10/11/2016 7:34:15 PM PDT by Jim W N
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