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Internet outage - Comm alternatives Emergency updates, FR contingency ham email & shortwave news
10/21/2016

Posted on 10/21/2016 5:22:51 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009

In light of today's widespread Internet outages, we should discuss contingency plans for FR availability, news updates and emergency communications.

Please share what ham amateur radio shortwave frequencies to monitor for emergencies and news updates, as well as practical ham email on the HF and VHF bands.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Reference
KEYWORDS: fema; fr; frcontingency; ham; hamradio; outage; prepper; preppers; radio; repository; shortwave; shtf
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To: knarf

A Fribble for $50?

You got me curious. Went to Google. Even after bypassing food recipes ... could you toss a little keyword help?


161 posted on 10/23/2016 4:53:59 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

‘Not true. You can broadcast without a license just be prepared for the possible consequences.’

Especially when the dictator-in-chief hates free speech — laws are subject to change.


162 posted on 10/23/2016 4:55:20 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009; Jim Robinson

‘CB does not fulfill those purposes...’

I agree that CBs are far from ideal, but there are plenty of them out there and can help network.

I’m thinking that Jim Robinson should have a mailer option. If the internet is disrupted, we write in and request the mailer that can load us with various info after this plan is thoroughly hashed out. Could tag a contribution for the mailer perhaps.

That way people who are ‘late to the game’ can get regular ‘field manual’ updates such as radio frequency games.

Yes, the word ‘game’ is perfectly legal in almost any banana republic [rather than in-your-face subversive code books] — ‘find that radio frequency’. A code game.


163 posted on 10/23/2016 5:02:49 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: DocRock

Can radio signals rapidly relay text in some way?


164 posted on 10/23/2016 5:04:59 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Answer:

http://www.aprs.org/aprs-messaging.html


165 posted on 10/23/2016 5:09:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse prior to the Battle of Little Big Horn)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Thank you! Not reliant on the internet?


166 posted on 10/23/2016 5:14:13 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Also, many hams use PSK31 to type text with radio. Here is a screenshot of what it can look like.


167 posted on 10/23/2016 5:16:49 AM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: MHGinTN

So a ham radio operator could be the big train while CBs could act as cabbies essentially.

And did you know that radio signals can be used to rapidly transmit text?

We need a kind of ‘internet shutdown field manual’ which could be offered as a donation incentive to the FR.


168 posted on 10/23/2016 5:18:53 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

No.


169 posted on 10/23/2016 5:19:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse prior to the Battle of Little Big Horn)
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To: mad_as_he$$; DocRock

Thank you both.

Got all of these posts saved on file just in case.

Bless you guys and FRegards ....


170 posted on 10/23/2016 5:23:28 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Just to muddy the water - there are forms of text that use the internet used by hams but as others have said there is radio solutions that do not use the net. The simplest form is a coded voice transmission, the method I prefer is to use a common phrase that is code for something. “Aunt Sadie went to the Doctor”, actually means something else. Uses a one time cipher key. That requires planning and prepositioning.


171 posted on 10/23/2016 5:30:33 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse prior to the Battle of Little Big Horn)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Just added hot link to this thread on my profile page.

Easy reference for me and others to access.

FreeRepublic’s very own “cloud service”.

;>)


172 posted on 10/23/2016 5:32:29 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

It’s a nonsense word, gleaned from my teen years when FRIENDLY’S ice cream parlors sold a frappe’ (milk shake to you non Bostonian aliens) and called it a FRIBBLE ... I use it now to describe bearings and various other unknown parts of stuff ... ygutt’a know yer fribble bearings from yer muffler bearings, and don’t forget to winterize your blinkers with blinker fluid this year before the snow and ice hit.


173 posted on 10/23/2016 5:36:59 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true ... and it pisses people off.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I’ve worked out dynamic code systems independently. They don’t conform to standard codes. If we do codify a survival plan then various key words could shift dynamically. It would be like ‘one time’ ciphers but better.


174 posted on 10/23/2016 5:37:54 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: knarf

Oh sorry. A 50 dollar fribble seemed like a good deal.


175 posted on 10/23/2016 5:39:46 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Covenantor

That’s good, but I recommend saving this on hard drive and stick.

Most of us won’t feel much gumption until after we lose our online connection.


176 posted on 10/23/2016 5:42:00 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

It would be incredibly helpful to rapidly relay text, especially if transmissions are brief.

Thank you again for the info!


177 posted on 10/23/2016 5:44:06 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Then you understand the complexities. The Aryan Brotherhood used a simple word code in written letters to send information from and to prisons. Took .gov years to figure it out.


178 posted on 10/23/2016 5:48:23 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse prior to the Battle of Little Big Horn)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Might also refer to the numbers station(s). They are an interesting subject. Good communication with large amounts of text would be a challenge in the apocalypse. I like the concept of Citizen Z from the tv show Z Nation.

From wiki:

A numbers station is a category of shortwave radio station characterized by broadcasts of formatted numbers, addressed to intelligence officers operating in foreign countries.[1] Most identified stations use speech synthesis to vocalize numbers, although digital modes, such as Phase-shift keying and Frequency-shift keying as well as Morse code transmissions are not uncommon. Most stations have set time schedules, or schedule patterns, however other stations appear to be broadcast at random times. Stations may or may not have set frequencies in the HF band.[2]

The first known use of numbers stations was during World War I, and the first possible listener was Archduke Anton of Austria.[3] The numbers were transmitted in Morse code. Numbers Stations operated mainly during the Cold War, yet many continue to operate and some have even switched operators[4] The Czech Ministry of Interior and the Swedish Security Service have both acknowledged the use of numbers stations by Czechoslovakia for espionage,[5][6][7] with declassified documents proving the same. With a few exceptions,[8] no QSL responses have been received from numbers stations by shortwave listeners who sent reception reports to said stations, which is the expected behavior of a non-clandestine station.[


179 posted on 10/23/2016 5:55:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse prior to the Battle of Little Big Horn)
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To: mad_as_he$$

It would help if FRiends understood code basics.

To me the most important basic code is the cipher’s shape. Normally it’s a ring with all twenty six letters. It’s not hard to make one customized for each code. And you can spin it around to match the word once you work out the code.

But with ‘auto correct’ [such as control+h] you don’t need to worry about them.


180 posted on 10/23/2016 5:56:06 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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