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What a stolen election had looked like [aw!m vanity]
Someone who lived through a stolen election.

Posted on 11/05/2016 2:56:18 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March

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To: Jmouse007

Thank you for all this information. We have voted out a lot of bums in congress, but they didn’t accomplish a whole lot as far as I’m concerned. The house is supposed to hold the purse strings, and they had the power but were afraid to use it because they were too worried about being reelected. So Obama got all the money he wanted and what he didn’t get he just circumvented.

The other problem we have is so many immigrants not qualified to vote that do, but the establishment has overturned any effort to stop it. I don’t think you had that problem in Ukraine, or did you?


21 posted on 11/05/2016 5:48:14 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

It is very different, but here the vote for president only has to be stolen in a few choice states and it’s stolen for all of us.


22 posted on 11/05/2016 5:51:59 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

A lot of the junior members of the media were educated the Marxist way. The senior members just got invited to better parties by the democrats.


23 posted on 11/05/2016 5:54:53 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: metmom

Very true. But now there are reports of FB, Twitter, Google and YouTube censoring conservative communication. They have that right as private companies, but they have pretty much a monopoly.


24 posted on 11/05/2016 5:59:07 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: rodguy911

They don’t have enough jail space in some places like Clark County, NV.


25 posted on 11/05/2016 6:01:43 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; Jmouse007; KC_Lion; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; ...

A first hand account of real history.

Our very own Jmouse007 had lived through a stolen election in the Ukraine.

Pinging to Important Article.

Thanks Jmousse007 and Arthur.

26 posted on 11/05/2016 6:03:42 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Rusty0604

THey should build more....that’s dingy Harry’s hang out isn’t it?


27 posted on 11/05/2016 6:12:05 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
...peaceful...
Of course it was peaceful, they don't own guns! Do you honestly think it would have been "peaceful" if there were a second amendment there?

...government, daily life, EVERYTHING either shut down...

There are only so many roads going into DC. 18 wheelers make great roadblocks.

28 posted on 11/05/2016 6:27:12 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Rusty0604
No, unlike America Ukraine takes its borders seriously. People who illegally cross the border in Ukraine, or overstay their visa's are immediately arrested and deported. If illegal aliens commit crimes in Ukraine they are tried, convicted and sentenced to long prison terms in a very harsh, unforgiving, non PC prisons.

That said, even though we are a multicultural society and there are a lot of illegal aliens here, they are NOT Americans, they are NOT CITIZENS. If for any reason the election is stolen by the DNC government and media complex via mass voter fraud, ballot box stuffing, I guarantee there will be a mass, united, peaceful protest across the nation the likes of which we have never seen before.

29 posted on 11/05/2016 7:07:21 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007

I would like to believe you, but our corrupt justice department has made it almost impossible to check the registration of voters, even in states where they want to. I’m not being a fatalist, just really asking for your opinion and advice. Thank you.


30 posted on 11/05/2016 7:47:24 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
Take heart, I saw this exact same scenario take place in the Unkaine election. In that case, the corrupt government was in charge of ALL of the polling stations and their people were in charge of counting ALL of the ballots.

The problem is, they couldn't and wouldn't be allowed to get away with it. The overwhelming majority of the people knew the election was rigged and stolen because the corrupt opposition had to resort to mass voter fraud in order to pull off the win... and the numbers didn't add up, sound familiar? Hillary Clinton is positively TOXIC, the majority of Americans, and even her own "supporters" can't stand her as evidenced by her miniscule number of supporters at all of her, Rapist Bill, Krazy Kane, and Chesley Clinton's rallies.

It has already been proven that Clinton surrogates, supporters and the DNC attempts at mass voter fraud and stuffing ballot boxes are taking place in key states. The good news: not only is it is being reported, people are turning these fraudsters in. Democrat voter fraud locations are being raided, people are being indicted and arrested, sworn affidavits detailing the fraud and those responsible are being filed. "Faulty" rigged electonic voting machines are being reported and several counties have already been replacing them with paper ballots instead... Trump is also admonishing his supporters to not mail their absentee ballot's in, but to personally hand deliver them and verify that they get placed directly into the ballot box.

My point in listing all of the above is this; like the situation in Ukraine people knew mass voter fraud had taken place in order to secure a win BUT, THE CITIZENS REJECTED AND LEGALLY CHALLENGED THE RESULTS. They also protested throughout the nation until the ballots were thoroughly examined and when the level of mass voter fraud was revealed and proven the courts nullified the fraudulent results and, in their case they instituted a new election.

Unlike McCain, or Romney, TRUMP IS A FIGHTER. He will not allow the results of a stolen Hillary Clinton win, based upon deceitful mass voter fraud, perpetrated by the corrupt DNC, aided and abetted by the duplicitous MSM to stand. HE WILL FIGHT! HE WILL unleash a multitude of legal teams to challenge the validity of the results all over the country. I am 100% certain Mr. Trump has already prepared for this contingency should it become necessary.

Once the voter fraud is proven, which it will be, ALL of the votes cast by dead people and illegal aliens etc... will be LEGALLY nullified and Crooked Hillary will lose the election because her win was based upon lies and fraud. This is exactly what happened in Ukraine as a direct result of the massive, peaceful protests of the Orange Revolution.

There is no doubt in my mind that the same mass protests and outcome would take place here in America as well because America's citizens are "mad as blazes and we're not going to take it anymore".

The only other option left if they steal the election and refuse to follow the rule of law is for Hillary Clinton, the DNC and corrupt government officials to resort to the use of violence, perpetrated by the government and law enforcement. I doubt this would happen because the overwhelming majority of police and law enforcement heartily supports Trump.

That said, if Hillary and the DNC resort to calling out the National Guard to crush the peaceful protests these troops would also likely reject their orders to use force against law abiding citizens because the vast majority of these soldiers also support Trump, BUT, more importantly they are sworn to uphold, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States from ALL ENEMIES, foreign AND DOMESTIC.

It is abundantly clear that Hillary Clinton and her cabal are criminals, engaged in a criminal enterprise, and that she has committed a plethora of felonies, INCLUDING TREASON! Therefore, it is highly unlikely that they would follow the order to resort to violence to crush the peaceful protests, "rebellion" in their minds.

However, if law enforcement, the National Guard or some other governmental authority resorted to active violence against American citizens in order to crush the protests and fraudulently, illegally install Hillary Clinton as President then "all bets are off"; they will "have awoken the sleeping giant, and filled him with terrible resolve".

That giant is highly proficient in the use of fire arms and armed to the teeth with over 300 million legally owned weapons along with billions of rounds of ammunition, and their actions to legally respond in kind to the violence perpetrated against them in order to defend their freedom, the Republic and the Constitution of the United States is guaranteed by said Constitution.

Simply put; they can abide by the rule of law concerning "free and fair elections" the "easy way" or "the hard way". If they willfully choose to resort to "the hard way" ... quoting the title of a movie: "There Will Be Blood" ... and they will ultimately, resoundingly lose.

So again, pray, vote and take heart.

31 posted on 11/06/2016 12:26:18 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007

Thank you.


32 posted on 11/06/2016 6:04:53 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Jmouse007

According to reports, I’ve come to the conclusion that Russians are incredibly stoic, that they think it’s cowardly to flee in the face of gunfire.

And I assume the Ukrainians are the same, right?

Here in the US we are conditioned to ‘duck down’, flee to safety. Practical, but a different culture.


33 posted on 11/06/2016 7:36:13 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Jmouse007; metmom; rodguy911; Rusty0604; eartick

3 person line for Kaine...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/three-people-line-see-tim-kaine-florida-photos

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My main concern was that Obama could shut off the internet and blame it on the Russians. But I think it’s safe to say that people will know the truth if that happens.

Yard sign disparity is another indicator.

Conclusion:

Jmouse007, you are correct. Orange Revolution is the most likely worst-case scenario although guns would be a part of it.

National guard would feel compelled to shoot back.


34 posted on 11/06/2016 8:32:09 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Jmouse007

Hillary also has her Creamer goons, as exposed by O’Keefe’s Operation Veritas.


35 posted on 11/06/2016 8:33:19 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Nifster

Well you’re right.

But JFK is not nearly the same as the Clinton Team.

This is a closer comparison to what we might face.


36 posted on 11/06/2016 11:01:15 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Jmouse007; metmom; Rusty0604; Whenifhow; eartick; LucyT

On researching this I noticed that ...

‘Viktor Yanukovych’

... is the name that Google seems to prefer.

And that, FRiend, means he was part of the Clinton Scandals!

Hillary Clinton’s Ukraine Problem

http://www.progressivepress.net/hillary-clintons-ukraine-problem-2

“Hillary and Bill Clinton run the Clinton Foundation, established by the couple. The foundation accepts monetary donations from foreign donors, amassing to billions of dollars. Some of the top donors of the foundation were Ukrainian oligarchs. One of them, Victor Pinchuk, was a former member of the Ukrainian Parliament and a strong advocate of Neoliberalism in Ukraine. Pinchuk became wealthy during chaotic privatization of large state enterprises after the country’s separation from the Soviet Union.”

[snip]

Now it gets weird ...

Reader Supported News journalist Steve Weisman’s report on how the Clinton led State Department laid the foundation for the regime change in Ukraine is an eye opener. It is truly one of the best investigative reporting pieces of our time, beginning with the evidence on the so called “rebel” who started the “revolution” against the Viktor Yanukovych administration. A polyglot Afghan immigrant who happened to work as a journalist in the news channel established by, none other than, the US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt. “Arriving in the Ukrainian capital on August 3 [2013], Pyatt almost immediately authorized a grant for an online television outlet called Hromadske.TV, which would prove essential to building the Euromaidan street demonstrations against Yanukovych.”

[snip]

So we are left with the bizarre hope that our own media, under the control of the Clintons will rebel the same way the Clintons helped ‘flip’ the Ukrainian media?


37 posted on 11/06/2016 11:16:46 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I was listening to a discussion on a podcast the other night ( forget who was talking) but they were postulating that with all of the rigged awareness and all of the enthusiasm for Trump and with all of the Wikileaks that are coming out, that it might just prevent them from doing what they had planned.

I think that might just be true. We will find out


38 posted on 11/06/2016 11:40:01 AM PST by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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I was listening to a discussion on a podcast the other night ( forget who was talking) but they were postulating that with all of the rigged awareness and all of the enthusiasm for Trump and with all of the Wikileaks that are coming out, that it might just prevent them from doing what they had planned.

I think that might just be true. We will find out

Praying you're right about this.

39 posted on 11/06/2016 11:41:57 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Well you lay it out for us what to look for Tuesday thru the following Tuesday after Hillary is proclaimed our new _resident in Chief.

Thanks for the heads up as I prepare to defend our Northern border.

VOTE #TEXIT

40 posted on 11/06/2016 6:05:48 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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