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Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: A constitutionally limited republic is at the pinnacle of governmental structure.

2 posted on 12/24/2016 6:32:20 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Some forms of “democracy” are absolute dead ends. The tyranny of the majority is no less onerous that a strict hierarchy of hereditary slots in society, a caste system.

This form of “democracy” leads to constant ferment, as the minority voices are repeatedly drowned out, not by reason, but sheer dint of numbers. People should recall that the various Communist governments, “People’s Republics”, all styled themselves to be “democratic”, but ended up being a most repressive and unresponsive regime. Power is retained by the elite few, not through wise and just rule, but by prodding the reluctant with the barrel of an automatic or semiautomatic weapon, firing off a burst at the more resistant, as an example to the remainder.

Proportional representation of the various factions, gathered together to hash out their differences by compromise and exchanging different limitations each faction wishes to place upon the others, discarding those found too oppressive, and accepting others that benefit more than they restrict, is perhaps not a perfect form of governance, and can even be “messy” and “inefficient” at times, but given the imperfect people represented, might be the best we are going to get. Never mind what could be “hoped” for, hope is not a part of the equation.


5 posted on 12/24/2016 6:51:20 AM PST by alloysteel (It is OK to use the greeting "Merry Christmas" again. Happy birthday, Jesus!)
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“The republican principle demands that the deliberate sense of the community should govern the conduct of those to whom they intrust the management of their affairs; but it does not require an unqualified complaisance to every sudden breeze of passion or to every transient impulse which the people may receive from the arts of men, who flatter their prejudices to betray their interests.” ― Alexander Hamilton

17 posted on 12/25/2016 4:45:35 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which ‘liberalism’ coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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