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Dubai to Have Tower Dangling in the Air?
Khaleej Times ^ | March 28, 2017 | Bernd Debusmann Jr.

Posted on 03/28/2017 12:36:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Boogieman

Why not mount some sort of thrust engines on the asteroid to allow control and adjustment the orbit?


61 posted on 03/28/2017 1:56:57 PM PDT by maxtheripper
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To: maxtheripper

Well, because this isn’t like a tiny low mass satellite that only requires occasional adjustments to keep its orbit from decaying. This is a high mass satellite with an atmospheric anchor continually dragging it down that would require massive thrusters constantly burning lots of fuel or it would decay past the point of no return very quickly. Where is the fuel going to come from to do that? Just constantly launching rockets from earth to ferry a little bit of fuel per launch up to the asteroid at billions and billions of dollars per launch?

Who will want to pay for that? Who will want to take the risk that if a few launches go wrong the thrusters run out of fuel and life on planet earth possibly goes extinct?


62 posted on 03/28/2017 2:06:53 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway
Now what?


63 posted on 03/28/2017 2:13:20 PM PDT by bar sin·is·ter
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To: ClearCase_guy
I think you're really on to something lol. The Arabs could install an electric fan that drives a wind turbine, generating enough energy to run the fan and power the building.
64 posted on 03/28/2017 2:14:21 PM PDT by Rebelrage ("To crush your enemies -- See them driven, and to hear the lamentation of their women")
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To: nickcarraway

Everyone calm down. Remember, the Arabs were great contributors to math and science. /s


65 posted on 03/28/2017 2:16:15 PM PDT by canalabamian ("The same things win, that always won..." Coach Paul W. Bryant)
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To: nickcarraway

Ultimate Skeet!


66 posted on 03/28/2017 2:20:14 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: nickcarraway

And if you buy this I have some scenic Detroit storefronts to sell ya.


67 posted on 03/28/2017 2:24:39 PM PDT by lurk (TEat)
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To: Vaquero

>> Is this Arthur c Clarke’s space elevator? <<

No. No asteroid involved in a space elevator, but a super-strong strand is required for the space elevator.


68 posted on 03/28/2017 2:24:40 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Vaquero

>> The two highest sections of the tower - starting at between 17,000 and 20,000 metres above earth - are reserved for a reliquary section (which would house religious relics) and a funerary section. The tallest point of the tower above earth is planned for about 32,000 metres above ground. <<

15,000 of vertical space for a reliquary?


69 posted on 03/28/2017 2:26:04 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Williams

“Lol they envisioned this futuristic plan, and they can’t have a heliport or something, you have to jump off with a parachute?”

Artistic freedom .... Low density and cold at 50,000+ feet ...


70 posted on 03/28/2017 2:27:22 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: gundog

>> Bazinga!! Wonder what effect this would have on the tides. <<

Zero. Very massive by human standards, but it has zero mass from the perspective of planetary mass.


71 posted on 03/28/2017 2:27:54 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

You would have to have a super strong strand for this too. A captured asteroid would also work well for a Clarke elevator. a lot less to put into orbit.


72 posted on 03/28/2017 2:28:43 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Drew68

“At least they’re ambitious.”

Exactly. This is just someones paper project, but its the sort of big idea that everyone should be entertaining. Some of them will find a way.


73 posted on 03/28/2017 2:30:31 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Vaquero

This does not solve the issue of weight. The weight of the building would act as a force to sheer it

A Clarke elevator would be used to transport people and belongings to and from a geosynchronous orbit. The elevator-satellite would have no reason to have any substantial height at all, so no gravitational force acting to tear it apart.

The Clarke elevator isn’t all it’s commonly understood to be. It’s useless for building the satellite in the first place. All it does is allow a very cheap exchange of materials between the satellite and Earth. But you have to put mass up their to be exchanged in the first place.


74 posted on 03/28/2017 2:40:49 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Boogieman

Thats just a quibble. If you have the tech to drag a 1km or so diameter asteroid into geostationary orbit, then you have the tech to set up reactionless drives (see recent NASA tests of the EM drive) powered by nukes or solar panels.


75 posted on 03/28/2017 2:42:27 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Vaquero

Actually, I take it back about the Clarke elevator. You could use a giant rail gun to launch ballast into space. Such a rail gun involves accelerations that would obliterate anything useful. But once the ballast is in space, the elevator could exchange the mass of the ballast for more useful materials.


76 posted on 03/28/2017 2:44:54 PM PDT by dangus
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To: nickcarraway

“The Towering Inferno II” & “The Poseidan Adventure II” all
rolled into one. - PASS!


77 posted on 03/28/2017 2:51:55 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: buwaya

“If you have the tech to drag a 1km or so diameter asteroid into geostationary orbit...”

Well, we don’t.

“see recent NASA tests of the EM drive”

Verrrry preliminary tests, mind you. Ping me when there’s a spacecraft flying around powered by a reactionless drive. Until then it’s vaporware.


78 posted on 03/28/2017 2:57:53 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: buwaya

“its the sort of big idea that everyone should be entertaining”

No, it’s the sort of stupid idea a first year engineering student should be able to point out the massive flaws in. We’d be much better off focusing on ideas that might actually work.


79 posted on 03/28/2017 3:00:22 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Yup. Like that fellow Walter Hohmann, figuring out the orbital mechanics of getting spacecraft to the planets (in 1925) when there was no known way to even get into Earth orbit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Hohmann

Aim high.
Per aspera ad astra
and my personal favorite,
Plus ultra (rough translation - go beyond)


80 posted on 03/28/2017 3:09:02 PM PDT by buwaya
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