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To: archy
Great story! Only one tiny niggle: the M107 175mm SP gun was absolutely NOT a howitzer..

Howitzers are artillery that is easily capable of firing high-angle and low-angle fires, sort of like a cross between a gun and a mortar. The M101A1 105mm was a howitzer and maybe the M114 155mm too - and I know that the M198 and the M777 are called howitzers but in real life are almost never fired above 900 mils.

Really pushes the definition of a "howitzer" to include weapons that can't be elevated easily and then can't be loaded at high elevations and the projectile loses stability at max ord..

53 posted on 05/02/2017 8:03:56 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail
Great story! Only one tiny niggle: the M107 175mm SP gun was absolutely NOT a howitzer..

Exactly so. Which was why I wrote:

...battleships' 16-inch guns were rifles, as were our divisional artillery 155mm,8-inch and 175nn howitzers and SP guns.

Honest! I can make enough mistakes without being called out over a conjunction not precisely linking the 175s [we called them the division sniper rifles] to SP guns. Proof being the comma I left out between *artillery* and *155,* as well as my ham-handed typo of turning the 175 into a 175nn tube.

I concur that that gun-howitzer divide is narrowing. So is the one between howitzers and mortars. And terminally-guided projectiles are making accuracy considerations of possible less importance as well.

55 posted on 05/02/2017 11:08:33 AM PDT by archy
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To: Chainmail
Great story! Only one tiny niggle: the M107 175mm SP gun was absolutely NOT a howitzer..

Exactly so. Which was why I wrote:

...battleships' 16-inch guns were rifles, as were our divisional artillery 155mm,8-inch and 175nn howitzers and SP guns.

Honest! I can make enough mistakes without being called out over a conjunction not precisely linking the 175s [we called them the division sniper rifles] to SP guns. Proof being the comma I left out between *artillery* and *155,* as well as my ham-handed typo of turning the 175 into a 175nn tube.

I concur that that gun-howitzer divide is narrowing. So is the one between howitzers and mortars. And terminally-guided projectiles are making accuracy considerations of possible less importance as well.

56 posted on 05/02/2017 11:08:49 AM PDT by archy
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