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Teen Gold Bar Scam Allegedly Included Fake Rolex Watches
The Bulletin ^ | Apr 24, 2017 a | Aubrey Wieber

Posted on 05/10/2017 10:51:14 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Prosecutors are calling on all victims to come forward

Prosecutors are working to uncover the breadth of a fake gold bar scam allegedly carried out by two Bend teenagers, which investigators say included selling fake Rolex watches on eBay.

Deschutes County District Attorney John Hummel is asking for all victims of the scam to come forward.

“Right now I am doing a big push to identify every victim and total the financial damages,” he said.

Robert Yelas Jr. and Caleb Knight, both 17, were arrested March 21 after police say they made nearly $60,000 from selling fraudulent 1-ounce gold bars. Yelas allegedly purchased the bars from online retailer aliexpress.com, a Chinese e-commerce site, and sold them to locals on craigslist.org. When confronted by the Bend Police Department, Yelas confessed to orchestrating and profiting from the scheme and using Knight as a middleman to not get caught, court documents show.

While the gold bar scam claimed several victims, no one was more affected than Bill Fleming, of Bend, who is out $44,500. Fleming, who owns a coin shop, never actually purchased the bars from Yelas or Knight, but rather bought them from Craig Boatman, a Bend customer with whom he had done business for many years.

Fleming said he purchased a total of 35 of the fake bars from Boatman, who had purchased them from Knight. Both transactions were set up by Yelas. By the time Fleming realized they were copper and plated with about $1 worth of gold, he had already sold a total of 20 to three customers.

Fleming said he was relieved when he found out Bend Police Detective Josh Spano had made arrests in the case.

(Excerpt) Read more at bendbulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News
KEYWORDS: amish; sonsofobama; teen; teens; youths; yutes
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1 posted on 05/10/2017 10:51:14 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Except minors are probably off the hook due to age.


2 posted on 05/10/2017 10:52:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: nickcarraway

You can’t cheat an honest man.
Copper weighs NOTHING like gold.

Like a pyramid scheme, it worked until the last guy caught on. They coin dealer was the one who SHOULD have known, and probably did. But, when HIS customers caught on, he jumped on the bandwagon.


3 posted on 05/10/2017 10:54:09 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: AppyPappy

They are being named, so I assume they are being charged as adults. I approve of locking them up the same as if they were a year older.


4 posted on 05/10/2017 10:55:00 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: nickcarraway

Real Rolex sweep. Fake Rolex tick.


5 posted on 05/10/2017 10:56:20 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: nickcarraway

“By the time Fleming realized they were copper and plated with about $1 worth of gold, he had already sold a total of 20 to three customers.”

Yeah, right.


6 posted on 05/10/2017 10:58:38 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: nickcarraway

Who is dumb enough to buy a fake Rolex and not know it is fake?


7 posted on 05/10/2017 10:59:22 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: SJSAMPLE

When I buy silver, I whey it...

Guy I buy from thinks its funny....


8 posted on 05/10/2017 11:00:22 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: nickcarraway

Was the “gold” underweight or oversized to get to one ounce? They should have at least used tungsten.


9 posted on 05/10/2017 11:05:17 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity - Pres. Eisenhower)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I think the “copper” is a mistake.

Fake gold bars are typically filled with tungsten. Which is only 0.3% different from gold.

Damn near impossible to detect without cutting or electronic testing


10 posted on 05/10/2017 11:06:46 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

Yep. And the band has actual screws to remove, not posts you tap out to adjust the band.

The band also has the over size mechanism for diving, like an Omega.

A few other ways to tell but, they are different for each watch.

The stamping will also be crisp in the metal and the elements of the face will all align exactly.

When shaking the watch a genuine will not have any clicking as the engine is screwed tight and precisely to the internal.

A fake merely sits in the internal box and will bounce off the sides, creating noise.


11 posted on 05/10/2017 11:06:47 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Vendome

Well, putting cottage cheese on your silver can get kinda messy on his counter..................


12 posted on 05/10/2017 11:08:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: Vendome
"When I buy silver, I whey it"


13 posted on 05/10/2017 11:11:51 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Ex Scientia Tridens)
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To: Vendome

“Who is dumb enough to buy a fake Rolex and not know it is fake?”

There are some very impressive fakes out there as well as the obvious ones. They call them ‘homages’ I think, and they are sold as such. They are sometimes passed off as real to an uninformed buyer. If you are buying a Rolex, Omega, Panarai, etc., best to pony up any buy from an authorized dealer rather than save a few bucks and always wonder if it’s real.


14 posted on 05/10/2017 11:17:49 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: nickcarraway
This is a photo I took in Guatemala.

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15 posted on 05/10/2017 11:22:45 AM PDT by shortstop (I used to wrap fish in the New York Times, but it made the fish stink.)
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To: Vendome

A real eureka moment.


16 posted on 05/10/2017 11:22:53 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: BlueLancer

Zactly....


17 posted on 05/10/2017 11:26:23 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: AppyPappy

Did they advertise themselves as Nigerian Princes?


18 posted on 05/10/2017 11:38:34 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

South Korea and Middle east vendors lesson .....:o)

Lots of old happy girlfriends running around with green wrists back in the day.

20$ for a gold day date ladies rolex back then. Great stocking stuffers.


19 posted on 05/10/2017 12:06:25 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Vendome

Now you’ve got me worried. I sure hope my Casio isn’t a fake.


20 posted on 05/10/2017 12:52:42 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Fidel and Che are together again, and it ain't on a t-shirt.)
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