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To: BenLurkin

So what exactly is the purpose of carrying a rocket up to 30,000 feet and launching it? I can’t believe it’s any safer or cheaper than launching from the ground. This whole project just seems...weird.


8 posted on 06/01/2017 12:14:59 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy
It seems the plane will serve as a reusable first-stage launcher.
9 posted on 06/01/2017 12:22:05 AM PDT by Vision Thing (You see the depths of our hearts, and You love us the same...)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

Yeah, 60,000 ft would have been something. I suppose Spy sattelites go at about 150,000 ft, so this carries it 20% the way up using atmospheric oxygen


13 posted on 06/01/2017 1:25:22 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: lefty-lie-spy
Did you know that originally the USAF was going to launch our Minuteman missiles from airplanes? But somebody asked "Why don't we just launch them from the ground?"

C 5 Galaxy Minuteman ICBM Drop Test

14 posted on 06/01/2017 1:49:57 AM PDT by Daaave ("Well bless my soul what's wrong with me")
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To: lefty-lie-spy

I am not an engineer, but I would think the first 30,000 feet are probably the most expensive.


15 posted on 06/01/2017 2:08:03 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: lefty-lie-spy

As a former NASA engineer, I can explain.

http://selenianboondocks.com/2008/09/orbital-access-methodologies-part-vi-air-launched-glideforward-tsto/

1) A major boost from air-launching orbital rockets is lower atmospheric pressure. At 30,000 feet, you are above 75% of the atmosphere. You can generally get away with using efficient, high expansion rocket motors optimized for vacuum, such as the RL-10 or the NK-43, instead of a sea-level optimized engine, which are less efficient and more difficult to build and maintain.

2) Rapid re-usability of the launch site. If your rocket, launching vertically from a standard launch pad, is firing exhaust downward at about 6700 MPH, it requires substantial engineering to avoid damaging your launch pad (massive water sprays and exhaust redirection channels), and often it requires days (or weeks) of maintenance before the launch pad can be used again. If your rocket doesn’t rise quickly enough, it can also ‘cook’ the bottom of the rocket in the reflected exhaust. Air launch eliminates this problem completely.

3) First orbit rendezvous - If you are trying to launch your match the orbital inclination and trajectory of an existing satellite (e.x. the ISS), air-launch makes it extremely simple to move your ‘launch’ point to any needed spot to match orbits immediately. Launching from a fixed ground pad (e.x. KSC) gives you narrow launch windows that still require many orbits and a fuel-wasting course correction to achieve rendezvous.

There are other benefits, but I need to get back to work.


19 posted on 06/01/2017 3:07:19 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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To: lefty-lie-spy

A huge percentage of a rocket’s fuel is used just in overcoming its inertia and getting off the ground, and then more just to reach sub-sonic speed. So instead of useful payload the bulk of the rocket weight is the fuel needed to get the thing moving. Launching from a jet that’s already going that fast changes the economics quite a lot. This behemoth of a carrier plane just increases the scale of the kinds of payloads that are already being launched in this manner.


23 posted on 06/01/2017 4:22:31 AM PDT by katana
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To: lefty-lie-spy

Actually the opposite. It is financially feasible because it is a true reusable launch platform. The actual Rocket does not have to be built to carry all the Fuel needed to get it to that altitude.

The is closer to the original Space Shuttle Concept than what rolled out of NASA.

Remember when we launched an Anti Satellite Weapon from an F-15?


29 posted on 06/01/2017 10:24:49 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Islamiphobia is a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.” Christopher)
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