Posted on 06/01/2017 7:47:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Barcelona’s poorest district is to pilot a “basic income” scheme that will see residents given grants to lift them above the breadline in a ground-breaking social experiment.
The Barcelona district of Besós has been picked to test a €13 million European Union funded pilot scheme investigating “innovative and creative solutions” to urban poverty.
The Catalan capital has been chosen alongside Utrecht in the Netherlands and the Finnish city of Helsinki to test the scheme, which will see the poorest residents in each chosen district given grants for two years to lift them above the breadline.
In the B-Mincome experiment, 1,000 randomly selected low-income households in the Besós district will be given grants of between €400 and €525 a month for two years. Those taking part will be divided into four distinct groups and given the grants in different forms as a way of analyzing the ways in which low income families can be best helped. …
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Someone please explain to my why prices won’t increase due to all this newly available money floating around.
Thomas Paine said it best...........”what we obtain too cheaply, we eschew too lightly”...
Socialists are dreaming again. Will be a guaranteed failure in so many different ways but the most important, in my mind, is they rob these poor folks of ANY self respect.
Guess who’ll be getting this free money?
“The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me.” Matt. 26:11.(NIV) Everyone forgets this vital fact. It is not the job of the state to make everyone the same.
Good grief 400-500 euro is a joke. That is nothing in Europe. And what about the other poor people. You better keep that list of life winners under lock and key. Can you imagine being poor and your neighbor is one of the thousand chosen......dumb.
Godless leftists are not going to regard what the scriptures say, and they believe that only when the State is all-powerful they can solve every problem of society (that they happen to create).
"When you subsidize something, you get more of it"
meh....1,000 people....lol. Hardly a dent and I doubt that companies will waste their time. If it were millions of people getting this,,,,,different story.
Actually if they are getting rid of all the other welfare bennies, then this is a brilliant idea. I kinda like the universal income monthly allotment to everyone as long as every single welfare program is gone....we’d save big money doing this.
The “poor” get very creative with that free money.
That was one of the key points that Milton Friedman used to make. It had to replace other programs, not add to them. And it isn’t just saving money — welfare inevitably leads to politicization, whereby interests will compete for larger shares of the total transfer, with those who are working and paying the bills being the inevitable loser, since they will be competing against professional lobbying efforts. But a simple, unabusable, per-person allotment takes away the politicization, takes away much of the potential for fraud and abuse, and also takes away much of the inevitable, entrenched bureaucracy.
Calling the broker, gotta load up on the stock of Barcelona’s largest big screen tv retailer.
Roundly described, socialism is a proposition that every community, by means of whatever forms of organization may be most effective for the purpose, see to it for itself that each one of its members finds the employment for which he is best suited and is rewarded according to his diligence and merit, all proper surroundings of moral influence being secured to him by the public authority. ‘State socialism’ is willing to act through state authority as it is at present organized. It proposes that all idea of a limitation of public authority by individual rights be put out of view, and that the State consider itself bound to stop only at what is unwise or futile in its universal superintendence alike of individual and of public interests. The thesis of the state socialist is that no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory.Dissembling over which is which is futile, since the ultimate goal is totalitarianism no matter the means.
Applied in a democratic state, such doctrine sounds radical, but not revolutionary. It is only an acceptance of the extremest logical conclusions deducible from democratic principles long ago received as respectable. For it is very clear that in fundamental theory, socialism and democracy are almost, if not quite, one and the same. They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members. Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals. Limits of wisdom and convenience to the public control there may be: limits of principle there are, upon strict analysis, none. …
You’re making the mistake of assuming this is taking place in a free market economy.
Spain is a heavily socialized command and control economy. The price of drugs and black market items will go up, all other goods and services will be price controlled to remain the same.
..........well, there are many definitions of socialism. Below the asterisk line is one. In my mind, when the government gives you money for not working that is a form of socialism. As such, it’s historical path has never been successful.
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Definition of socialism: An economic system in which goods and services are provided through a central system of cooperative and/or government ownership ...
...........you have more faith in Liberals who have power in government than I do. In my mind, like our income tax which was suppose to be 1%...........they are NEVER satisfied...............ever.
You can do this experiment a lot cheaper with raccoons.
Go ahead; put a bag of cat food on your back porch every day.
At first you’ll get a couple of coons and there will be cat food remaining in the morning.
But soon, there will be several; raccoons and no cat food will remain in the morning.
Then only the early arrivals will get cat food; latecomers will not get anything; pretty soon the raccoons move their dining time forward into the daytime as they each try to beat the others to the food.
They show up as soon as you open the door to bring out the bag.
If you are late, they start scratching at the door. One day you see there are opossums there too, waiting.
You start feeding them two bags because one isn’t enough for all of them.
But then you soon find you need three bags and you’ve vowed no more.
But more raccoons and opossums show up. There seems to be no end to them.
While waiting, they fight and squabble over the tiniest morsel they find. They look for other nearby sources of food; they eat your animals’ food; they go through your trash, scattering it all over the yard; they get into your garage, opening bins and drawers and coolers; they clean out your bird feeder; they devour your garden and orchard fruit to the last plum. They even crawl into the car if you forgot to roll up the window, because they can detect the faint odor of the French fries you had for lunch last week.
Watch what happens when, weeks later, you forget to leave the bag out and your pet bird’s cage is on the patio.
You come home to a pile of feathers where they pulled it a piece at a time through the cage bars as it screamed in vain.
In the dim light you see their cute faces waiting for the chow to be doled out.
That’s when you decide to get a chow. A big hairy chow with teeth that hates raccoons.
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