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NHL Hockey Expansion Protected Lists are Released for Vegas
NHL.com ^ | 6/18/17 | NHL

Posted on 06/18/2017 12:10:45 PM PDT by Yaelle

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To: Alberta's Child

The Pens ran a dysfunctional franchise for 20 years before building a fan base the first time. After that the base was pretty stable. I don’t think Vegas has that much time to succeed or fail but I hope they can build one. They’re starting from a much better base than the Pens had.

You’re probably right about Detroit. The same is true here in Pittsburgh, winning has become the status quo. The injection of youth is important for teams such as this. Gives everyone something new to look at.


41 posted on 06/19/2017 11:31:27 AM PDT by Varda
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Re: Pens

Two words: Mario Lemieux


42 posted on 06/20/2017 11:39:47 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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Of course the Pens did tank to get Lemieux in ‘84, it’s a strategy that paid off but not immediately. The Pens didn’t seem good until the late 80’s with Lemieux and that record breaking season and that’s when the fans came. I think most of the current fan base were kids during this time. It takes awhile to build a fan base.


43 posted on 06/20/2017 1:37:03 PM PDT by Varda
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I hate that we will lose James Neal, the Real Deal. Also, I hate the new Adidas jerseys. They look like cheap, knock-off, side of the road imitations.


44 posted on 06/21/2017 8:55:42 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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I don’t know if I hate them, but as a group they all look like a t shirt made to look like a jersey. Will take some getting used to. Golden Knights logo a little passive looking for a hockey team. Is the knight standing in the hallway of a museum?


45 posted on 06/21/2017 9:05:23 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Alberta's Child

There is definitely a pendulum effect (BESIDES the salary cap) to winning NHL teams. We saw it with our local boys the Kings. I won’t say winning the Cup could ever be done on psychology alone, but it helps. You know a strong will, a tiny very into it town, really can get you to a series win from being down 0-3. Skill is hella not enough!

When the Kings are doing well, the entire town (Manhattan Beach, where they ALL live) is abuzz and displaying signs, stickers, gear. The town is that seventh player in MB for sure.

And then, when you are at the top for a few years, since there is no where to go but down, other teams have MORE motivation than you do to win the cup, and your salary cap for the hottest players means they need to sacrifice in order to stay, so the order of teams always changes at the top. Which is, in the end, fair and makes the playoffs so exciting.


46 posted on 06/21/2017 9:12:42 AM PDT by Yaelle
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Pittsburgh almost lost the team to Kansas City a while back in the pre-Crosby days. People sometimes forget that Lemieux had to come out of retirement in 2000 just to rescue the team.


47 posted on 06/21/2017 9:26:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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Bingo. His legacy is more than just being a hockey player, but the one having the foresight to buy into the team (to be fair, it was the only way he could get what was owed to him) and keep it in Pittsburgh. If Mario Lemieux had not been a Penguin, there probably would not be a NHL team in Pittsburgh.
48 posted on 06/21/2017 11:14:25 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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L.A. is a tough town for any team to succeed. The biggest problem there seems to be the enormous size of the metro area coupled with the wide variety of entertainment options there. They went years without an NFL team, and NASCAR even took away one of the race dates at California Speedway because of the low attendance.


49 posted on 06/21/2017 11:21:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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This sounds almost too obvious but getting anywhere in early evening in L.A. Actually makes people prefer to not go out. Unless you’re young and going out means meeting the opposite sex...

Still, in tiny Manhattan Beach, I do think the team felt the incredible fan presence. Every shop, everywhere, even the end of the pier, was all GO KINGS in their runs for the cup.


50 posted on 06/21/2017 12:28:13 PM PDT by Yaelle
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