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Posted on 06/30/2017 12:09:42 AM PDT by Olog-hai
I forgot to mention:
You are a freaking liar.
If your position is for individual autonomy, then that’s a BIG reason for the suicide laws to remain the way they are in most States: neither legalized nor medicalized nor subsidized.
People who want to kill themselves will always be able to do do. Ten minutes googling will show you 10 swell DIY methods.
But do not involve the medical, legal, or political professions. It will only corrupt them.
The medics are supposed to single mindedly promote your health. Nobody is healthier dead.
The lawyers are supposed to protect your interests .Nobody has any interests when dead.
The politicos are supposed to uphold the American ethic of justice in *res publica*, securing first of all —— first, logically and chronologically -— the inalienable right to life. Nobody has any rights when dead.
By all means, those who want to take their own lives should at least have enough self-respect to do without the entanglements of permission or assistance or consultation with the anointed “compassionate, enlightened and progressive”, kin, insurers, lawyers, legislators, ethicists, “carers” and all that lot.
Do it yourself. Don’t suborn the basic institutions of your society and don’t corrupt everyone around you.
In the Netherlands it’s legal to terminate teenagers for depression.
I am serious.
What did I lie about?
Absolutely! We’ve read about what goes on in Belgium, the Netherands, the UK... I remember reading that the elderly in the Netherlands are afraid to go to the doctor or hospital - they may be killed. And in Belgium children are killed just for having chronic illnesses, without their parents’ knowledge or consent.
Pure evil.
You said what I was trying to say above, but much better.
Okay, then you are against doctor assisted suicide? Perhaps I misread your meaning. I understood you to mean that you are in favor of doctor assisted suicide.
Are you, or are you not? Because if you are opposed to doctor assisted suicide, then I owe you a big apology.
Oops, meant this for you:
Okay, then you are against doctor assisted suicide? Perhaps I misread your meaning. I understood you to mean that you are in favor of doctor assisted suicide.
Are you, or are you not? Because if you are opposed to doctor assisted suicide, then I owe you a big apology.
LJ, you have nothing to apologize for. You spoke the truth. FD03 has devoted a great deal of time and energy to promoting doctor prescribed death. He celebrated the forced starvation/dehydration of Terri Schiavo, and even joked about it.
“Take yourself up on the suicide suggestion” is quite a vicious thing to say.
You reveal yourself more than you know. And it’s more than a little disturbing.
In NYS, patients with dementia are still allowed to drive unless they have their privileges revoked. A diagnosis of dementia does not automatically revoke a drivers license. So the state is going to okay killing a lotta folks it still allows to drive. Go figure.
A lot of people beg for killing because the pain is so great had family who wised some body would do it because of great pain that drugs couldn’t stop when you get to that point let me know if you want to still live.
The Bible isn’t going to stop the massive pain.
>>LJ, you have nothing to apologize for. You spoke the truth. FD03 has devoted a great deal of time and energy to promoting doctor prescribed death. <<
Show one post — ONE — where I specifically advocated doctor-prescribed death. The “Terri” issue was not even about suicide — it was about who has the legal right to decide.
Find that post or admit you are a liar, just like my original lying attacker.
>>You reveal yourself more than you know. <<
I do not suffer lying attacks nor fools lightly. I assume if one does so here then that is their value system, one the human race can do without.
>>Okay, then you are against doctor assisted suicide? <<
My stance has always been that the decision to end one’s life is between a person and his/her God or god.
The question about whether or not it should be doctor assisted is an entirely different topic (the anwser is too much thread drift).
But in this thread I said no such thing and I am not on record ever saying that I support doctor-assisted suicide (you won’t find it on the Terri threads as that wasn’t a suicide case).
>>Do it yourself. Don’t suborn the basic institutions of your society and don’t corrupt everyone around you.<<
Hehe — always nice to hear from a hypocrite.
As for your support of Big Government: there should be no suicide laws. Who it involves is not a government issue — nor is it for nosy busybodies like you.
I know JR disagrees with me on this so I will say no more on the subject.
Abandoning thread.
I'll tell you what is hypocritical. For over 13 years you've proselytized on the "virtues" of doctors killing their patients, but you're too much of a coward to come right out and say it. You use the dropping-turds-in-the-punchbowl method of getting your message across, and then pretend your too clever for anyone to understand what you're saying.
Mrs. D was right. You reveal yourself more than you know. And it’s more than a little disturbing.
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