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Are fruit and veggie pills really as effective for your health as they claim?
Intelligent Medicine ^ | 11/2016 | Dr. Ronald Hoffman

Posted on 08/22/2017 12:41:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It’s been a bad season for veracity (witness our recent political campaigns!): Unfounded claims abound. Product pitches assault us with no tether to reality. Science is misappropriated for commercial gain.

Are fruit and veggie pills really as effective as they claim?One example of such things: fruit and veggie pills that claim they can take the place of the whole foods you’re not including enough of in your diet.

Don’t get me wrong: I think there’s value in certain plant-derived nutrient supplements. Before it sounds like I’m dismissing an entire group of products, you should know that there are a few categories where these substitutes for fresh produce can have benefits.

For instance, there are some phytonutrient concentrates with validated, standardized extracts of key plant constituents like resveratrol, EGCG, pomegranate proanthcyanidins, Broccophane, curcumin, quercetin and lycopene as found in my own formulation PhytoGuard. They are not merely ground up fruits and vegetables, but rather carefully distilled concentrates of specific, well-studied plant constituents.

Then there are green and red powder products that deliver some of the benefits of the plants from which they are extracted. I’m particularly impressed by beet concentrates like Superbeets and green powder drinks like HeartGreens, which at least possess the advantage of delivering measurable amounts of dietary nitrates demonstrated to support the circulatory system. And, because you consume several scoops of the powder with each serving, they are more likely to provide significant plant nutrient benefits than a couple of pills. Additionally,for those who disdain the sometimes aversive taste of nitrate-rich veggies, these formulations are pleasantly flavored with natural ingredients.

As usual with dubious marketing spiels, the “miracle” fruit and veggie pill promoters proceed from a kernel of truth. There really is a factual basis for concerns about fruit and vegetable consumption in the U.S. 87 percent of Americans don’t meet recommendations for fruit consumption, and 91 percent don’t meet recommendations for vegetable consumption, according to a new report.

Moreover, a 2014 study published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Public Health found that people who ate seven or more portions of fruit and vegetables per day had a 42% lower risk of death at any point in time than those who ate less than one portion. The more fruit and vegetables you eat, the more protection you’re afforded from disease and death—what’s referred to in medicine as a “dose-response effect.”

Compared to eating less than one portion of fruit and vegetables, the risk of death by any cause is reduced by 14% by eating one to three portions, 29% for three to five portions, 36% for five to seven portions, and 42% for seven or more.

The illogical leap occurs when we falsely equate taking fruit and vegetable pills with eating actual fresh produce. They’re not the same.

Are you old enough to remember the mid-twentieth century infatuation with the idea of “food pills”? It was a popular science fiction theme. Why bother with all the fuss of eating meals when science could provide you with all the nutrients you need in a concentrated pill?

The issue is tackled in a recent Discovery Magazine article entitled “The Enduring Appeal of a Meal in a Pill.”

The article states: “Food pills were heralded repeatedly and with certainty. So why don’t we have them? Because a meal in a pill is an impossibility.”

A recent review in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition addresses this succinctly, insofar as the benefits of fruits and vegetables are concerned:

“The key question is whether a purified phytochemical has the same health benefit as does the whole food or mixture of foods in which the phytochemical is present . . . We propose that the additive and synergistic effects of phytochemicals in fruit and vegetables are responsible for their potent antioxidant and anticancer activities, and that the benefit of a diet rich in fruit and vegetables is attributed to the complex mixture of phytochemicals present in whole foods [emphasis added].”

Research indicates that the benefits of whole fruits and vegetables cannot be distilled down into a pill. Many of the health effects may be mediated by the impact of substantial portions of healthy fibers and associated phytochemicals on fostering a favorable intestinal microbiome, thus affecting metabolism, immunity, and even mood.

Marketers of fruit and vegetable pills invoke reassuring words like “purity,” “real food,” “nature,” “superfoods,” and “balance.” They decry the use of “artificial” vitamins, although the ingredients of these supplements are chemically identical to the nutrients found in fruits and vegetables.

They claim that their proprietary extraction methods—“flash-freezing” or “cold extraction”—maintain 95% of the nutritional potency of fresh fruits and vegetables, but without adducing any proof of that assertion.

Unlike most supplements and foods, their labels usually do not indicate the specific amounts of vitamins and minerals in relation to the RDA.

The marketers claim that a few pills yield the equivalent of “the real nutrition of over 10 servings of fruits and vegetables a day.” But how can that be, when hundreds of grams of fiber, polyphenols, live enzymes (which may not survive the dehydration process) and other crucial health-supporting substances are not present? Remember, each capsule is about 1 gram (1000 milligrams); a small 2 ounce serving of a fruit or vegetable is equivalent to 57 grams! Don’t tell me that 56 grams or so of that weight is simply worthless water!

With the exception of just one company, the “evidence” they present for the effectiveness of their products is purely anecdotal, based on testimonials that are difficult to authenticate—and sometimes strain credulity. Fruits and vegetables are healthy, but by what means does their consumption result in rapid, dramatic reversal of weight gain, cancer, high cholesterol, infectious diseases, venous stasis ulcers, or even brain lesions?

In science, double-blind placebo controlled trials are considered the “gold-standard” for proving efficacy. Testimonials are considered the most unreliable form of proof, and no good researcher would base a conclusion on them.

To its credit, one company did undertake some small studies which demonstrated treatment effects of their supplements: Juice Plus. But their studies are of poor quality, at best are only single-blind, and were underwritten by the company that makes Juice Plus, which can be a potential source of bias. It may be that for some people who are sick or don’t eat many fruits and vegetables, taking a few dehydrated plant concentrates provides them with just enough basic nutrients to upgrade their health—lower their cholesterol a few points, or slightly shorten the duration of their colds, for example.

But nowhere is there evidence that such an effect could not be achieved with a basic multivitamin/mineral supplement. Nostudies have been performed that offer a head-to-head comparison of fruit and veggie supplements vs. conventional multis. Had they been done, it’s quite likely the multivitamins would have conferred similar or superior benefits—as they have already demonstrated in many properly conducted studies of multis vs. placebo.

Of additional concern is the exorbitant price of these fruit/veggie pills. When formulating vitamin supplements, there are real costs associated with the ingredients. For example, a kilo of vitamin C goes for about 3-5 dollars on the open wholesale market. Admittedly, the markup is enormous when that raw material is formulated into a tablet or capsule or incorporated into a multi. But with fruits and vegetables, especially in a proprietary blend whose constituents might vary accord to market prices, there’s no certainty as to the cost of the raw materials, which might be sourced from cheap produce deemed unacceptable for supermarket shelves. Imagine paying 70 dollars (“preferred customer” price) every month for your daily dose of a few capsules of powdered fruits and vegetables?

Worse yet is the false sense of security these pills impart to those who don’t eat their fruits and vegetables!

So, what’s the answer? If you want to boost your health, take the time to eat the recommended 7-10 servings of fresh fruits and vegetables. Saving high double digits of money per month should get you most of the way there if you shop seasonally.

Or, if you want a short-cut, blend (not juice) whole fruits and vegetables into a delicious smoothie. Add whey, rice, or hemp powder if you want added protein, and some coconut oil, avocado, or flax oil for healthy fat.

Alternatively, take supplements with standardized amounts of recognized phytonutrients, or with documented attributes like raising nitric oxide. And steer clear of expensive pills that claim they’re all you need to take—to the exclusion of vitamins, minerals and other supplements—or that make outlandish claims of reversing serious diseases using dubious testimonials.


TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: fruits; health; pills

1 posted on 08/22/2017 12:41:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I WILL NOT buy ANYTHING advertised on the radio.


2 posted on 08/22/2017 12:55:36 PM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: SeekAndFind

3 posted on 08/22/2017 1:17:06 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: JohnnyP

RE: I WILL NOT buy ANYTHING advertised on the radio.

Here in my area, where I listen to Rush Limbaugh, there is a company that advertises on his show — TEXAS SUPERFOODS.

And Michael Savage himself advertises for Superbeets.


4 posted on 08/22/2017 1:21:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve gained ten pounds if I’ve gained an ounce, since I started doing the Hadacol Bounce.


5 posted on 08/22/2017 1:23:50 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: SeekAndFind

If Balance of Nature brought down my cholesterol by 40 points via “placebo effect”, I’ll keep taking it.


6 posted on 08/22/2017 1:27:34 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: SeekAndFind
if it's not derived from jellyfish, I won't eat it     :)
7 posted on 08/22/2017 2:11:50 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you listen to the ads -— the same folks advertise for Dy-No-Vite. Listen to the voices and you will see what I mean.


8 posted on 08/22/2017 2:24:54 PM PDT by LTC.Ret
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To: LTC.Ret

After having hear the dino (bark bark) vite ads on the radio forever, I wondered how long before they came out with dino (bark bark) for people. Well, I guess they have. Will it make your coat shiny and new? I wonder...


9 posted on 08/22/2017 3:04:57 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some of the pills may be really good. Others may be useless. I take a small amount of multi-vitamins with minerals each morning after breakfast. No reason to take the entire tablet at once. Most of the chemicals will just go unused into the urinal. Therefore, just a quarter tablet per day. Supposedly...the apple cider vinegar of about one once per day is good for a person. If it cleans window glass of grease perhaps it will cleanse the body of toxins.


10 posted on 08/22/2017 3:12:43 PM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: LTC.Ret

ROFL! Today I was sorta listening to an ad on the radio that I thought was for Dy-No-Vite. Then I heard I woman sayin “It made my skin smooth and silkey.”

I gave the radio a WHAT THE H*LL! look and realized it was an ad for Texas Superfoods! I was amused!


11 posted on 08/22/2017 3:19:28 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: lizma2

Multi-vitamins and minerals. Once again I say, “sounds like a winner,” just don’t spend too much. A land based human and a land based dog are about the same thing. Adjust dosage for proportional weight.


12 posted on 08/22/2017 3:31:25 PM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: Trumpet 1

You have to check out who made the pills not just who distributed them. More and more our vitamins are made in China. Almost all of our vitamin C (ascorbic acid)

Ascorbic acid is in a lot of our process foods.

A Cardiologist told me only eat fish oil that is Scandinavian. Most of the rest is from China and loaded with mercury.

Never buy vitamins from Costco or Sam’s Club. Trying to research where vitamins come from is pretty close to impossible. Has some journalist ever researched this?

Frozen fish can be caught here in North America but processed in China.

Same with chicken. Article from 2014.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/business/usda-to-allow-chicken-from-chinese-companies.html

Now the articles are blaming Trump!

Our news media is beyond worthless. (Wait til they see what the hard core leftist ruling elitist have to offer
them if they continue this path.)

1/2 my family lived under Communist regimes. Hell on earth.

I think the same people who are writing our news are the same people with their faces planted to cell phones that walk out into traffic.

Their banner shouldn’t be RESIST it should be DE-EVOVLE!


13 posted on 08/22/2017 4:38:36 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: Trumpet 1

LOL! Your probably right. I’ll order Dy-No-Vite for me and dog.

If it works, I’ll tell my mom. She’d go ballistic. That would be a major hoot!! Like to keep her blood pressure up and her blood flowing.


14 posted on 08/22/2017 5:09:48 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: lizma2

I just keep eating 6-8 eggs a day to tick off my Doc, he keeps sending me off for numerous blood tests
I LIKE him cause he sews me up when I’m cut and I pay Cash for visits... 25 years and he still tells me to put my Ice Chest in the back of his truck, “It will be Good for me”
He had a Cardiologist friend that he sent me to twice that used to lament... “He gets all the good stuff to try and diagnose, I just get this, your fine, go home”
(Both times the diagnosis was you ate something or got bit by something go home)
I remind him that I am older than he is and he should take care of himself since I have no one else to go to if he passes.


15 posted on 08/22/2017 6:49:58 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (High quality, Low price, Speedy executionÂ…pick any two)
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To: SERKIT

RE: If Balance of Nature brought down my cholesterol by 40 points via “placebo effect”, I’ll keep taking it.

Not sure about the “if” in your above statement... did Balance of Nature really bring down your cholesterol, or is the above just a hypothetical statement?


16 posted on 08/22/2017 9:13:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Not sure about the “if” in your above statement... did Balance of Nature really bring down your cholesterol, or is the above just a hypothetical statement?

For skeptics and doubters, take the following any way you want. After being on BoN for about 4 months, my cholesterol went down by 40. Now, if it is chance, coincidence, voodoo, or placebo effect, I really don't care - I am continuing to take it. I also "feel" an energy boost, but again, placebo? - don't care.

17 posted on 08/23/2017 6:53:04 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: SeekAndFind

In this review, Dr Hoffman was nice enough to link to my website where I discussed the studies on Juice Plus. My website name has changed and the link provided no longer goes to me.

My Juice Plus review can be found at this URL
https://supplementclarity.com/juice-plus-review-of-research/

Sorry for the inconvenience.


18 posted on 11/27/2018 10:29:15 AM PST by JoeCannonMS
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