Posted on 09/16/2017 11:36:40 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
We have 40 plus illegal aliens in the US
How are we going to deport 1 in 9 people living in the US?
Great insight.
Thanks for posting.
It's my impression that Free Republic has become a majority website for Pro-Trump immigration doves and open border Libertarians.
Bedrock Conservatives, most of whom voted for Trump, are now labeled as Trump-bashers, hand wringers, and bed wetters, when we demand that Trump fulfill his campaign promises.
“How about taking your long list of “conditions” that would take legions of government employees to oversee, administer, and verify and sticking them where the sun don’t shine.”
Yes, this involves lots of government employees, but each illegal will be paying lots of money in fees or he/she will lose eligibility.
Perhaps a private sector lawyer should have to prepare each application.
As for conditions, we want the legal ability to refuse undesirables.
Thank you SO much for doing a job Americans in the US Congress won’t do.
Personally, I’m in the deport all illegal aliens camp. However, recognizing practical and political realities, I propose the following:
1. For any DACA individual convicted of a criminal offense immediate deportation, no appeals whatsoever.
2. NO chain migration other than proven mother and/or father for DACA individuals or anchor babies, and NO further chain migration from said mother/father.
3. DACA individuals may apply for citizenship but must go to the back of the line.
President Trump should not endorse and ESPECIALLY not sign ‘comprehensive immigration reform’ without these features, and especially when it includes a general amnesty (which it will). If The US Congress passes it , let them own it.
“I would allow *elderly* parents, minor children, and spouses, ...”
None of this is in the US Constitution.
THERE IS NO HUMAN RIGHT TO COME TO/LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES !
Yeah, I got a thought, GTFO
I see a lot of job openings.
You know what they say about supply and demand.
Guess they’ll actually have to start paying a decent wage if they want to attract and retain decent employees
Their illegals! They broke the law!
They are all undesirable!
I’m sure all those doing it legally will appreciate this. Maybe they can read the full text while they’re waiting.
Why don't you try commenting on the idea of pardoning the penalty? This is a forum for discussing Constitutional ideas, not shouting profanities.
-PJ
No. the existence of a database guarantees absolutely that it will be used for anything the government or some part of the government wants regardless of whether the law allows it or doesn’t. Social Security numbers are absolutely forbidden in the law to be used for Identification purposes other than for connecting the holder with his Social Security account. In reality Social Security numbers are required identification for a whole host of things and continually more things.
It is true that no one has a right to go off and live in a particular place; however, this ought to be at a minimum a family-oriented society, and for this reason, I think spouses and minor children ought to be able to enter with someone who comes here legally. And as a Christian, I believe we have certain obligations to our parents, so if they are elderly, we ought to care for them.
I do not think that every niece, nephew and 14th cousin three times removed ought to be able to come in under family reunification: that is just silly.
If we allow someone to come here, I think this small number of relatives should be able to join them. Now the situation is that a huge number of relatives can come in; I am suggesting a reduction.
Also, NO chain migration, AT ALL, for DACA individuals imported by King Obama as solos.
Well howdy! Let’s see, I’ve had every president since Reagan promise to shut the flow of illegals and then grant the ones already here amnesty. At work I watch the illegals getting paid in cash on Friday’s, at the store they all have ebt cards, and the older folks all get Medicaid and social security. They’re all on free lunch at the schools and bumped my kids admission in to college this semester.
Yeah, I have a problem with them.
Address the penalties.... They need to leave this country.
I don’t support giving any advantage to illegals over people who are doing the legal process to become legal here. That means they would have to do the same process, start to finish from the back of the line. If their circumstances require them to begin the process from another country then so be it.
We had (possibly still do) a process allowing people who had come here illegally to agree to self deport and then were allowed to go through the process legally to come here to work or become citizens. That process was used as a carrot to encourage illegals to self deport or allow themselves to be immediately deported without a hearing. If we had to forcibly deport illegals going through the whole immigration court process they were never allowed to try to come back legally and that was the stick to balance the carrot. The process actually worked, but then open borders supporters/radical groups began telling illegals to not waive their hearings. The plan was to clog up our immigration courts so we could not get people processed and deported. That has caused the issues we have now with our backed up immigration courts, full detention centers which makes it hard to deport. Nearly every single illegal that goes through the hearing process loses and is court ordered to be deported. They came here illegally so it is hard for them to make any case that they should not be deported. So according to our immigration laws those illegals cannot legally return. They have been simply returning over and over again ignoring our laws.
We have to follow our laws, we got in this mess by not following our own laws. We cannot give special treatment to those that come here illegally over those that are doing the process legally.
What the illegals are asking for is special treatment. Why should we even consider special treatment for people who came here illegally and demand more and more special treatment? Whatever we do and have done it is never enough. They will not stop demanding and fighting unless we have open borders and give amnesty to everyone that wants it.
If you think of the illegal immigration issue at this point the same as the 2nd Amendment battle you will understand what is really going on. They are fighting for bits and pieces but will not stop until they have everything they want. Just as the liberals will not stop fighting for bits and pieces of gun control and will not stop unless they can completely criminalize private ownership of firearms. This is a battle that will keep coming up over and over. We do not want to give them a lot of ground hoping they will back off, they will instead increase the pressure for more and more until they get what they want.
Have you ever been around a spoiled child that always gets their way? What happens when they don’t get what they want? What happens if you try to only give them part of what they want? If you cave in and give that child what they want, then what happens the next time they want something? That is what we are dealing with at this point.
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