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HE WAS NOT ALONE!
10-08-17 | TEDWINT

Posted on 10/08/2017 7:24:18 AM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib

THE LAS VEGAS SHOOTER WAS NOT ALONE!

Since the vicious attack of the murderous monster, Stephen Paddock, there doesn’t seem to be the usual plethora of conspiracy theories that generally abound after similar mass killing events.

Allow me to present my own conspiracy theory:

Investigators seem to be convinced that Mr. Paddock was a “lone wolf” terrorist. From all accounts, he is reputed to have been a seriously solitary individual with no apparent religious or political affiliations. His connection with social media appears to be nonexistent. Neighbors at his numerous residences generally described him as decidedly anti-social.

Regarding social media, it is possible to scrub your history from the four largest social media sites on the planet—Facebook, Twitter, Google, and LinkedIn with a fairly straightforward process. I previously did not know this, but I’m guessing Stephen Paddock or his unknown accomplice(s) did.

He was reputedly a successful video poker gambler and an astute real estate investor, so we’re not talking about your average crazed killer. But the logistics of researching the location of upcoming outdoor entertainment events in several cities that would attract huge audiences, booking rooms in hotels overlooking said events, while, at the same time amassing his vast arsenal of fire power, ammo, etc., seems a bit much for a lone 64 year old gentleman with a suspected valium addiction.

Investigators admit they are at a loss as to Mr. Paddock’s motive for this senseless slaughter, but there are those who would consider it a great victory to murder fifty-eight innocent American citizens (or infidels, in their vernacular). Their motivation is brought to our attention on a daily basis.

I contend that Paddock was coerced by evildoers, possibly Islamic evildoers, to commit this heinous act. He was a well-known millionaire gambler about town, privy to rooms of his choice and able to come and go as he pleased, unlike your run-of-the-mill Middle Easterner. Isis has claimed that he was radicalized, and that is not so hard to believe.

Perhaps he was chosen as a willing accomplice to gain access to a perfect “hunter’s perch” to rain down many hundreds of high-powered rifle bullets on thousands of unsuspecting concertgoers, gathered together with no easy avenue of escape.

Truly, it was like shooting fish in a barrel!

THE LOGISTICS OF CREATING THAT FORTRESS IN ROOM 32-135

Police say they found 23 guns in his hotel room. Weight of an AR-15 Rifle: Roughly 8.5-9 lbs, Weight of an AK-47 Rifle: About 10.5 lbs. 23 guns, at an average weight of, say, 10 lbs. with thousands of rounds of ammunition in magazines, would add up to at least 250 pounds! Pictures released of the shooter show him to be a not particularly athletic senior citizen.

The average “Hardside” suitcase (with wheels) has dimensions of about 28.5 x 20.5 x 13.5 inches. The length of your standard AK-47 is about 39 inches, so, at say two rifles per suitcase, we’re talking roughly twelve pieces of some unusually large luggage, being hauled, BY THE SAME ELDERLY GENTLEMAN, presumably with the aid of a bellhop, going through the lobby of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and in the hallways of the 32nd floor.

Now, I live in Vegas, and I know that “what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas” and all that, but it seems to me that that scenario might pique the interest of Security, the house detective, neighboring guests or whatever, especially in an upscale venue like Mandalay Bay. But if one or more accomplices were to be involved, at different times, all that oversized luggage might not be as conspicuous.

WHY BREAK OUT TWO WINDOWS?

The line of fire from Paddock’s northernmost window to the Route 41 Festival grounds was approximately seven degrees, relative to the angle of the window… almost perfect. The line of fire to the jet fuel tanks was about 27 degrees. The line of fire from the second, east-facing broken window to the jet fuel tanks is about the same.

Since the investigators claim only two rifle rounds hit the tanks, it seems logical that the east-facing window was broken out, not to afford a better shot at the tanks, but to give a second shooter access to the Route 41 Harvest Festival audience.

Investigators have said that Mr. Paddock had apparently planned an avenue of escape after his reign of terror. I suggest that there was a planned escape route, but it was for the use of Paddock’s accomplice(s), after they had completed their ten minutes of merciless carnage and then “assisted” in Mr. Paddock’s suicide, thus eliminating the only witness to their crime.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: badfoil; conspiracy; goaway; stopjuststop; vanitypaddock; yourvanitysucks
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1 posted on 10/08/2017 7:24:18 AM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

Hillary said it best. What difference at this point does it make?

It’s not like anyone or anything can do a d@mn thing about any of it.


2 posted on 10/08/2017 7:27:39 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

I kinda wish people had to post their credentials or explain their experience that led to their conclusions in vanities...

I mean, if one more person asks how in the world is it possible to get “all that ammo” into a hotel room, I might cry.


3 posted on 10/08/2017 7:32:50 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

Yes he had help.

Devil was there - pure evil.

No religious affiliation. No moral values that allowed the demon in to to cause havoc.

However the good of people coming together with the help of God trumped the evil act.

A warning from God that we will all suffer from evil if we allow evil in our society.


4 posted on 10/08/2017 7:35:28 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

It was the Grassy Knoll.


5 posted on 10/08/2017 7:36:21 AM PDT by McGruff (Lock Her Up! In a Padded Cell!)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Where did the 2nd shooter go?

Where are all the spent shell casings? Where did the supposed 2nd shooter go?
What do the cameras show that were set up by Paddock? What do the hotel cameras
show of the area on the 32 floor, elevator passengers, etc?

Lots of unknowns at this time, but I’d be surprised if there was a 2nd shooter.


6 posted on 10/08/2017 7:42:49 AM PDT by deport
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

I’ve seen this theory addressed many times already. When I was a video producer in the 90’s, I’d routinely load in my company’s equipment to hotel rooms all by myself. These were up to ten hard cases, each up to 75 pounds - all in different sizes and shapes - especially the long tripod cases - which could fit a small rocket launcher. People sometimes stared and, often, a bellman or valet helped or at least stood guard over my trips back and forth. No questions and no big deal, ever... ESPECIALLY in Vegas. The worst part was hauling that crap through the damn casino floors to get to the elevator. I could probably even dress like the Terminator. No one would care!


7 posted on 10/08/2017 7:49:48 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

seriously?

There are plenty of conspiracy theories.
Did he have some help? Probably.
More than one active shooter ? Probably not.


8 posted on 10/08/2017 7:51:46 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

I thought UPS or FEDEX delivered the goods.
How about the food cart? who checks that?
I do think shooter had a friend in the hotel. His girlfriend worked in the casinos, his life was the casinos.

Reading your post, I noticed how much investigations are based on the internet. Shooter may have been an “old Timer” and not used the computer as some do. Since he’s ex CIA/IRS, he may have known ways to delete all traces of activity on the web. But traces always remain. Just gotta find that crumb.

I think it’s time the investigations were conducted the pre-web way a la Columbo.


9 posted on 10/08/2017 7:54:49 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Wilderness Conservative
Hillary said it best. What difference at this point does it make?

It’s not like anyone or anything can do a d@mn thing about any of it.
__________________
That is always the retort by those who guard the secrets realizing that secrets/information is power. Those possessing a natural curiosity will never be deterred from searching for the who, what, when, where, and why things occur around them.

10 posted on 10/08/2017 7:56:24 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: iontheball

Im not an oncologist. If by chance I stumbled upon a cure for cancer do you think it would ever get out there to actually help anyone?


11 posted on 10/08/2017 8:02:48 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative.)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

Well said.

The idea that he would have difficulty in bringing 10 large bags to an expensive hotel suite is ludicrous to anyone who has stayed in hotels.

They deal with this issue on a routine basis. No problem whatsoever.

I suspect people subconsciously *want* to believe in an accomplice. It makes them feel safer. If there was an accomplice, the chance of another such event is lessened.


12 posted on 10/08/2017 8:04:29 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

At first I thought ISIS theory but based on the widespread immediate demand for gun control vs search for motive I believe it was a Deep State event to push freedom killing legislation. To create an event to “never let a serious crisis go to waste.” The question should be who stands to benefit here?


13 posted on 10/08/2017 8:08:44 AM PDT by ehard (COURAGE, WISDOM & HOPE!)
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To: ehard
"The question should be who stands to benefit here?"

metal detector companies.

14 posted on 10/08/2017 8:14:40 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Yep...Chertoff and OSIS. Both Deep State companies run by friends of that “fundamentally transform” America guy. And than the rush to fix the problem by taking away our Second Amendment. More freedom not less is our only path to solve these “problems.” And that goes all the way down the list of supposed government “fixes.”


15 posted on 10/08/2017 8:24:20 AM PDT by ehard (COURAGE, WISDOM & HOPE!)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

Correct.

Vegas is convention central,(http://www.lvcva.com) and there is a major show there weekly – not just like the latest “comic” con or some other nonsense, but huge industrial shows where companies bring in entire automated production lines and install and run them in the center there.

Sales, reps, technicians, installers, thousands upon thousands of them attend from all over the world and they bring with them all the tools, equipment, and production samples, necessary to do their jobs.

They all haul tools, samples etc. in professionally crafted cases which are designed specifically for their needs. Often these cases end up in hotel rooms as their contents are too valuable to be left behind in the convention center.

It is not unusual to see these types of cases in the hotels there at all, and by looking at them one simply cannot discern what secrets they contain.

If there is a gun show in town (which Vegas has several per year) they might even contain guns.

Like this case:

http://www.pelican.com/us/en/pro/product/watertight-protector-hard-cases/large-case/rifle-case/1780HL/

Why anyone would believe it would be difficult to get 20 plus rifles, pistols, ammunition etc. into their hotel room in Vegas is a mystery to me. The hotel service would be more than happy to deliver it directly to your room, as it’s their job.

This is especially true for customers who are tagged as “high rollers”.

I’m absolutely sure that if you stay in a suit in Vegas as a high roller you do not ever schlep anything to your room. It’s all delivered directly and waiting for you when you open the door. No questions asked.

After all if one is carrying cases to one’s room, then ones arm is not available for punching the buttons on the slot machines.

The casino makes no money in having “players” carry their own bags.

Unless they are leaving, then they don’t care.


16 posted on 10/08/2017 8:26:38 AM PDT by Ethan Edwards
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

It is the logistics that have me convinced that other person(s) were involved.

And I am not talking about carting all of the guns up to his room.


17 posted on 10/08/2017 8:26:41 AM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

Getting the guns and ammo in would be easy for anyone. He could even get bellman help.

This vanity follows a time-honored desire...

When you don’t know, make shit up!


18 posted on 10/08/2017 8:28:25 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Exactly, my 10 year old granddaughter could easily carry two boxes of 500 rounds each of .223 into a hotel and up the elevator to the room.

She could easily put 3-5 thousand rounds into a compact suitcase with wheels designed dimensionally to fit in the overhead in an airliner and roll it into the hotel.

So...............”How” he got the ammo into the hotel arguments then are simply ludicrous. It was easy.

From now on, look to have your bags inspected when checking in. All thanks to “Liberals” who tolerate and accomodate Muslims when instead they deserve, as a people, to be “Profiled” to death forever. They need to have a “Muslim Registry” and restrictions on their whereabouts and movements and dress and ID’s similar to sex offender registries. The latest restriction could be that they cannot rent a room in a hotel above the 1st floor.

Yes, I know Paddock didn’t look like a muzzie but that’s not the point. The point is that until the US applies HUGE and GREAT pressure on Muslims worldwide similar to the Chinese and Japanese none of this stuff is going to stop.


19 posted on 10/08/2017 8:29:20 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

the most ridiculous part of this is the demand to know why he would break out TWO windows.

like it’s really dastardly, or revealing, or mysterious.

for anyone with a lick of common sense, it should be totally obvious.

They want you to think, “two windows broken open, therefor two shooters..!”

it’s the reasoning of a simplistic mind.

I do believe there were two shooters however the evidence the particular evidence cited here doesn’t make that a requirement.

the evidence being cited here is silly.

It’s similar to the question:

“how on Earth could and a non-military man hit people 400m away in a crowd of 22,000 people who laid down stationary for him and later sought cover in a fabric tent..?!”

the much etter question is how could he fail.


20 posted on 10/08/2017 8:50:08 AM PDT by gaijin
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