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PBS' The Vietnam War Miseducates America
realcleardefense ^ | 10/10/17 | Sempa

Posted on 10/10/2017 7:48:48 AM PDT by pabianice

The recent PBS ten-episode The Vietnam War, produced and directed by Ken Burns and Lynn Novick, and written by Geoffrey Ward, is billed as a critical reexamination of the war in Indochina that claimed more than 58,000 American lives and more than two million Vietnamese lives. It is nothing of the sort. Burns, Novick and Ward do not reexamine any of the conventional liberal perspectives on the war. The shibboleths of the Left are all reinforced. The production of this new series was, objectively, a waste of time and money, for PBS had essentially told the same story in 1983’s 13-part Vietnam: A Television History.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: documentaries; kenburns; vietnamwar
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I stopped watching during the third episode. This series is a whiny, self-loathing screed written by one of the (figurative) bums I went to college with. You know him. He spent his college years throwing rocks at ROTC cadets and burning-down the ROTC building. The vets on the show are uniformly sorry they served and want to tell everyone about their sorrow. My squadron did two tours in Vietnam while I flew with them. Out of about 800 people over two years not one fits the profile of the vets you see on this show. Left-wing agitoprop.
1 posted on 10/10/2017 7:48:48 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

I’ve heard a lot of good things about this series. Almost entirely from Liberals.


2 posted on 10/10/2017 7:51:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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There is a very good website, Vietnam Veterans for Truth, from which I’ve shared articles there that take the Ken Burns documentary and identify and discuss the various misrepresentations portrayed in each episode.


3 posted on 10/10/2017 7:52:14 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: pabianice

Yes, I agree.

It highlighted our atrocities and left out the North Vietnamese atrocities.


4 posted on 10/10/2017 7:53:05 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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I couldn't watch it all. Burns did a good job on the Civil War, but that was it.

From what I have heard he didn't spend much time with the wives of the men who fought, were captured or were killed.

Then he woulda had something.

5 posted on 10/10/2017 7:54:37 AM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: pabianice

I quit watching the globalists propaganda years ago.


6 posted on 10/10/2017 7:54:55 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Vietnam Veterans for Truth,

Thanks. Can you post the link? I Google it and couldn’t find it for all the John Kerry Truthers.


7 posted on 10/10/2017 7:56:01 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Left-wing agitoprop.

I absolutely hate how the Left gets away with rewriting history in a false narrative that always puts them in a good light. Basically, this was a fictional account written by the 60's hippies.

This was confirmed throughout the series but especially when it came to Nixon. All the same left-wing crap. Johnson? Whitewashed. Kennedy? Just a walk through the hagiographic park.

8 posted on 10/10/2017 7:56:18 AM PDT by Obadiah
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You got 2 and a half more episodes into it than I did. I have read some reviews that it got more even handed as it went on but I’d had enough already. Everybody that served (in country or not) had a different experience during that time frame so the whole thing is apples vs pine cones.


9 posted on 10/10/2017 7:58:09 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Did they say anything about the traitorous john kerry and how he lost the war for us or his plaque of thanks that is in the Vietnam war museum?


10 posted on 10/10/2017 7:58:26 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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POS PBS

Now why, why I ask would you even consider wathcing?

Its good toknow what the enem.......nah never mind I know them like the back of my hand and did not watch.

The commercials for the program pissed me off I knew exactly what they were going to portray.


11 posted on 10/10/2017 8:01:01 AM PDT by Uversabound (Might does not make right, but it does enforce the commonly recognized rights of each succeeding gen)
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Yeah, they pointed out what Kerry did, sandwiched between glowing accounts of how incredibly articulate he was.


12 posted on 10/10/2017 8:02:25 AM PDT by Obadiah
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The bill him as hero of the anti-war left. They don’t explain that going to Pairs and interjecting himself in the negotiations was tears. They show his speech before congressional committee and if you’re against the war, he is your hero. They did find in about 45 seconds not emphasizing how she elected moral and that she was by definition a traitor.

I generally liked the series. The battles for some hills was described by some who were there and heroic acts described in detail. It shows a lot of N and long speakers, but found it interesting. Good portrayal of Tet as a major enemy loss despite how the media portrayed it here.. good detail on the evacuation.

I saw the firsts series and i liked this one better because of more testimony on both sides. Good coverage of the French period more detail than the first series. All in all, watch both series and I think you have a thorough picture. Maybe a book someone here can recommend and that’s your VN dosage for awhile.

Stream for free on PBS before they take it down.

Those who wonder what Burns did well other than Vivil War, watch Jazz and Baseball.


13 posted on 10/10/2017 8:05:19 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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... claimed more than 58,000 American lives and more than two million Vietnamese lives.
That was 2 million civilian deaths, both north and south. Add on a another million NVA/VC killed and the bloody total is 3 million.
14 posted on 10/10/2017 8:06:34 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: tired&retired
Vietnam Veterans for Factual History
http://www.vvfh.org/
15 posted on 10/10/2017 8:10:25 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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#1 shibboleths and agitoprop
I do not want to look up meaning of words so early in the morning : )


16 posted on 10/10/2017 8:19:31 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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and hagiographic !


17 posted on 10/10/2017 8:21:21 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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1) I was there. In Nha Trang, a relatively quiet “rear” area, to be sure, but I was there Sept ‘67 to Sept ‘68.

2) Yeah, the left a lot out. He (they) also left a lot in.

3) Speaking as a former professional film and video editor, to edit is to make choices — and every edit leaves something out, and emphasizes something else. It’s the nature of editing.

4) Coming from his liberal bias, he did pretty good. It could have been a lot more lopsided. Maybe that’s all we get.

5) I thought, on balance, he did a pretty good job. He did catch the deeply essential insanity of many decisions of the commanders. Those feckless calls are simple facts and simple history.

6) Here’s the Killer Question, however:
After all that time, after all that blood, after all that expense... ...what was ultimately gained?

7) It was America’s Obsessive-Compulsive Psychotic War.

8) I honor all who served there.

9) The Vietnamese are clever, intelligent, and very resourceful. Give them a few years, and they will become an economic and manufacturing powerhouse that will give other Asian economies a good race for their money. The essentials of Liberty and Free Market will do what the idiot commanders of the military of the times could not:
make it a free country. Give it time. Liberty is a good hunger of the individual, and it will seek to find ways.

(P.S. — I was a guest for a day on an oil exploration vessel operated by Chevron. I have always known from that day that there was a nice amount of oil there on the conshelf.)


18 posted on 10/10/2017 8:22:34 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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The series was a PBS repeat of the hack job done by public TV back in the 80s.


19 posted on 10/10/2017 8:22:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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Anything by Ken Burns is pure liberal garbage.


20 posted on 10/10/2017 8:23:40 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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