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The USS Fitzgerald was damaged again by the massive ship that was supposed to take it to the US...
businessinsider ^ | Nov 27, 2017 | Christopher Woody

Posted on 11/28/2017 5:11:42 AM PST by Daffynition

The USS Fitzgerald, an Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer crippled in a collision this summer, was damaged again this month as it was loaded on to a heavy-lift vessel that was supposed to take it to the US for repairs.

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Can't get a break.
1 posted on 11/28/2017 5:11:42 AM PST by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

Perhaps they should rename it “Scharnhorst” ... another cursed ship.


2 posted on 11/28/2017 5:15:29 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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Ships named *Fitzgerald* come with their own curious curse. :(


3 posted on 11/28/2017 5:19:44 AM PST by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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What's up with these guys/gals?

Maybe they need a refresher course in floating boats in their bath tubs. Just sayin'.

4 posted on 11/28/2017 5:23:33 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Daffynition

It is November, after all...


5 posted on 11/28/2017 5:29:36 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: zerosix

They are blaming *sleep deprivation*.


6 posted on 11/28/2017 5:29:36 AM PST by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

7 posted on 11/28/2017 5:30:15 AM PST by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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PFL


8 posted on 11/28/2017 5:33:49 AM PST by Batman11 ( The USA is not an ATM!)
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To: Daffynition

Then maybe they just need to crawl back into their own beds and quit “enjoying their sexual freedom” granted by the perverts at the pentagon!


9 posted on 11/28/2017 5:36:20 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Daffynition

Gordon Lightfoot, call your producer! There’s a song waiting to be written.


10 posted on 11/28/2017 5:40:21 AM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: Daffynition

My dad was a Naval officer. Sleep deprivation seems to be a way of life in the Navy, and none of his ships ever had these kinds of accidents. He mentioned two specific ships in the Pacific Fleet that, around the time of the Gulf War, were generally known to be screw-ups. I’ll have to ask him which ships they were and check if they ever bungled like this.


11 posted on 11/28/2017 5:42:12 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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generally known to be screw-ups

Each ship develops a culture that seems to persist with the ebb and flow of individual crew members. Changing a culture requires an extraordinary level of attention, force, discipline and training driven from the top with the cooperation of some JOs and most of the goat-locker. Oh and firings. Massive firings.

12 posted on 11/28/2017 5:45:25 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Daffynition
You know, I could almost forgive the Fitzgerald's crew for this. After all, it is an unfamiliar and "non-standard evolution" for ship's company. But those are exactly the times when you take your time and make sure everything is right. So they're not entirely blameless for the additional damage.

The people that really have me scratching my head are the crew of the heavy lift vessel. This is what they do. They should be able to take on, transport, and deliver cargo without damaging it. They deal with ships & crews that have never done this before. Therefore the heavy lift guys should have it worked out where they don't have to rely on their cargo doing the right thing. I consider this a serious professional black mark against them.

If it were me (on the heavy-lift vessel)... I'd have the loading procedure down to: put your vessel in deep water; shut down your engines; put your hands in your pockets; sit down, shut up, and enjoy the ride. I'd do everything with my guys and winches. Same thing unloading - don't stand up, take hands out of pockets, nor start engines until I'm a mile clear and stern-to. ;-)

13 posted on 11/28/2017 5:45:35 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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Once it is in dry dock they will fix it. The problem is the USA has reduced ship making/repair facilities to the bare minimum. In war time we are toast. Not enough infrastructure. Thanks globalists, thanks free trade, thanks for nothing.


14 posted on 11/28/2017 5:54:48 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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why don’t they just scrap it and build a new one from scratch? probably more cost effective......a true cluster f^5k


15 posted on 11/28/2017 5:58:52 AM PST by Dont tread and Live
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Brings back memories

“The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald” - Gordon Lightfoot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A


16 posted on 11/28/2017 6:02:08 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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“What’s up with these guys/gals? Maybe they need a refresher course in floating boats in their bath tubs. Just sayin”.......

Readers should take note, those who were moving and expected to transport the ship were HIRED CONTRACTORS, and NOT part of the U.S. Navy. The media putting a slant on their poor reporting...... AGAIN..


17 posted on 11/28/2017 6:04:30 AM PST by DaveA37
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What's up with these guys/gals?

If it happened while loading it on to the heavy-lift ship then I would think that the blame lies with that crew rather than the crew of the Fitzgerald. They should know how to position the destroyer without damaging it.

18 posted on 11/28/2017 6:05:09 AM PST by Lower Deck
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Ships make mistakes all the time. I was "associated with" the US Navy back in the 80s and 90s. I was either present for or got first hand accounts from personnel present for a dozen incidents involving poor seamanship and/or ah "mishandling" of equipment resulting in such things as accidental discharge of a naval gun (think turret, not a little rifle or even M2), main-space fires, etc. Miraculously, none of the incidents resulted in serious injury. Proof that God has a sense of humor and watches over fools.

You put men and a lot of gear together in complex situations, stuff happens... Heck, even in simple situations...

19 posted on 11/28/2017 6:12:03 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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To: tired&retired

Here is an excellent documentary of the wreck, which was November 11, 1975. It killed 29 men.

On November 11, 1975 the Great Lakes freighter Edmund Fitzgerald sank with all hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXXII2VyIbM


20 posted on 11/28/2017 6:12:50 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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