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Astronomers Spot Two Massive Galaxies Surrounded by a Halo of Dark Matter at the Dawn of Time
www.popularmechanics.com ^ | 12/06/2017 | By John Wenz

Posted on 12/06/2017 11:31:18 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

Curvature of space-time relative to mass works pretty well for most folks.


21 posted on 12/06/2017 12:09:30 PM PST by linear (The truth brooks no arbiters.)
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To: linear

Yes, but what ‘causes’ the curvature?..................


22 posted on 12/06/2017 12:10:48 PM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Mass. Or turtles.


23 posted on 12/06/2017 12:12:51 PM PST by linear (The truth brooks no arbiters.)
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To: Red Badger

It is the dawn of time.
This earth we know so well is a smoldering, inhospitable place.
No plants grow, no creature can survive.
The hard, implacable rocks that form our mountain ranges are being crushed and folded by forces that will take millions of years to shape.

These are the forces!

This is the power that drives the hand that drinks ‘Treadmill’, the mighty lager, with the world’s first great taste of fish!


24 posted on 12/06/2017 12:13:33 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Red Badger

“fudge factor” i.e. we don’t know anything except that it makes the equations work....


25 posted on 12/06/2017 12:14:40 PM PST by Enchante (Bill, Anthony, Harvey .... how does lesbo Hillary manage to surround herself with male predators???)
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To: linear

What is mass?..............


26 posted on 12/06/2017 12:15:40 PM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Red Badger

There are two competing theories: WIMP’s vs. MACHO’s. Weakly Interacting Massive Particles are hypothetical ghost particles that (besides gravitationally) interact only weakly or not at all with normal matter, sort of like the neutrino. But unlike the neutrino, they are massive enough to clump around galaxies. The room you’re sitting in could be filled with them but there is no way to detect them.

MAssive Compact Halo Objects are things like black holes, neutron stars, even brown dwarfs. But they would have to be in great enough numbers to account for all the mass of dark matter.

So far, ironically, WIMP’s seem to be winning out over MACHO’s as the leading theory.

The existence of Dark Matter was actually discovered by Fritz Zwicky back in 1933, when he noticed gravitational interactions between galaxy clusters that their visible mass couldn’t account for. He was an underrated scientist then and today.


27 posted on 12/06/2017 12:18:56 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Red Badger
I'm still confused how they think they can see light from just 780 million years after the big bank.

If the universe is 13.8 billion years old, then Earth would need to be 13.8 billion - 0.8 billion (780mil) = 13.0 billion light years away from the big bank to intercept the light.

I've been told that inflation figures into it. But still Inflation plus the speed of the galaxy away from the big bang would have to equal (13.0/13.8)=94% of the speed of light for us to currently be intercepting light from 780 million years after the big bang.

Possibilities:


28 posted on 12/06/2017 12:19:16 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Red Badger

What is pedantry?


29 posted on 12/06/2017 12:21:30 PM PST by linear (The truth brooks no arbiters.)
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To: DannyTN

The earth is not the same age as the universe.


30 posted on 12/06/2017 12:22:10 PM PST by linear (The truth brooks no arbiters.)
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To: Red Badger

Sounds like a lot of speculation.


31 posted on 12/06/2017 12:32:27 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Red Badger

Ding..ding...ding
You win the post for this thread


32 posted on 12/06/2017 12:50:27 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Red Badger

‘Dark Matter’ is as real as AGW.


33 posted on 12/06/2017 12:59:02 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: linear

Attention to detail.................


34 posted on 12/06/2017 1:04:38 PM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Red Badger
What’s Dark Matter made of?

Supposition.

35 posted on 12/06/2017 1:05:26 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: linear
Dark matter is a placeholder. It’s sort of a shorthand way of saying that there is more mass in the universe than what can presently be observed.

Modern cosmologists invented dark matter to save the Standard Model, according to which, the universe should have flown apart by now.

Instead of questioning the fundamental validity of their underlying theories, they invent unobservable, unmeasureable phenomena that can't be checked or tested, to explain observations their theories have failed to predict.

36 posted on 12/06/2017 1:19:27 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: linear
"The earth is not the same age as the universe."

Which makes it worse.

37 posted on 12/06/2017 1:26:21 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Red Badger
Gravity can be identified. But it can’t be explained.

Gravity explained:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TbrGaQ9Zc0&list=PLwOAYhBuU3UeYFyfm2LilZldjJd48t6IY&index=61

38 posted on 12/06/2017 1:47:40 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Red Badger

Was there a Piper at the gates of dawn?


39 posted on 12/06/2017 1:49:35 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Take Covfefe Ree Zig!)
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To: Enchante
“fudge factor” i.e. we don’t know anything except that it makes the equations work.

Exactly!

When actual observations falsify your cherished theories, the gods of Scientism command you to invent fairies and unicorns to explain it away.

40 posted on 12/06/2017 1:57:34 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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