[Ciaphas Cain]

The haters either insist that "It's too derivative!" or that "It's too different!"

There is no winning that game.

Saw it on opening night. The Last Jedi is easily the best Star Wars movie since The Empire Strikes Back. It's dark and daring, not afraid to defy expectations, and it's also got lots of well-timed humor. This movie rattled the cage hard and maybe that's why some people can't take it.

It also seems to have backpedaled away from the social justice crap. By the end of the film it looks like that "Poe and Finn gay romance" is not going to happen. Maybe Disney got the message: most of their box office is coming from that massive swath of red across America last election. And a lot of them are families who will NOT want their kids to see a "Finn and Poe Husband and Husband 2-Figure Set" on the pegs at Toys R Us.

[mountn man]

Maybe Disney got the message: most of their box office is coming from that massive swath of red across America last election.

Actually, US sales were about 90% of foreign ticket sales, for Force Awakens.

[silent_jonny]

This movie rattled the cage hard and maybe that's why some people can't take it.

Excellent sentence. This is a bold movie--and a better one for it. It's also a smart, thoughtful story and some people are just too stupid to understand it.