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To: Elderberry

What was always missed in this mess of Obama’s birth place was that Obama himself claimed he was a foreign national all through his college career. It opened a lot of doors for him and likely also gave him access to grants and funding for his expensive college that somebody paid for. Even his first book identified him as a foreign national (if I remember correctly). But that was called “a mistake by the publisher” during the campaign.

So questioning it was always fair. But the premise should have been from the source. “Did you lie about where you were born and take advantage of benefits in college or are you lying now?”


7 posted on 01/09/2018 6:54:07 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being rich or stupid!)
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(hat tip Kenya Sunday Standard)

DID PRESIDENT OBAMA ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING FOR HIS HOMELAND?

<><> 2 billion US tax dollars to the Muslim Brotherhood,

<><> $50 million US tax dollars to his tax-exempt foundation in the form of a grant to Kenya.

<><> Total US Foreign Aid to Kenya (FY 2012): $749,236,440

<><> $418M arms sale to Kenya

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(FR Posted by RobinMasters)

A Kenyan lawmaker told the nation's Parliament last month (March 2010) that Barack Obama was born in Africa and is therefore "not even a native American."

During debate over the draft of a new Kenyan constitution, James Orengo, the country's minister of lands and a member of parliament for the Ugenya constituency, cited America's election of a Kenyan-born president as an example of what can be accomplished when diverse peoples unite:

"If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation," Orengo posited, "how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the president of America?"

Orengo held up the U.S. as a country no longer "living in the past," since Americans elected a Kenyan-born president without regard to "ethnic consideration and objectives."

Debate is then recorded in the Kenyan government's official March 25, 2010, hansard – a traditional name for printed transcripts of a parliamentary debate – as continuing with no other MPs mentioning or attempting to correct Orengo's comments about Obama.

14 posted on 01/09/2018 7:03:35 AM PST by Liz (One side in this conflict has 8 Trillion bullets; the other side know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Tenacious 1

The foreign national claim to get grants or course-funding...has never been proven.

If you go and ask when and how the long-form is ever used, you’d have to ask someone with over twenty years in the county office business, and if you asked how often it ever gets used...it’s extremely rare.

I think this whole issue goes back to this point where the mother decided upon the 2nd marriage and arriving in Indonesia...that she’d give up her US citizenship. When she went down and filled out the form....I think she filled out a 2nd one for Barrak. Legally, she did not have the power to discontinue his citizenship, and he would have been given a chance at 18 to dissolve it himself. I think the clerk at the embassy screwed up and accepted it....and the clerk in Hawaii carried out what they felt was a legit act on his original copy of the birth certificate.

A decade later, I think Grandma realized what the idiot daughter had done, and had to fix the mess....so the long-form makes sense.


16 posted on 01/09/2018 7:04:58 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Tenacious 1

His second citizenship (after Canadian) was Indonesian. No doubt Indonesia paid for his college. It explains how he lived in the occidental foreign student housing.


18 posted on 01/09/2018 7:08:38 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Tenacious 1
“Did you (Obama) lie about where you were born and take advantage of benefits in college or are you lying now?”

Exactly.

25 posted on 01/09/2018 7:25:04 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Tenacious 1

You have correctly identified the real issue. Obama was born in Hawaii - there are contemporaneous birth announcements from the Honolulu newspaper. He, however, used his foreign sounding name and father’s heritage to claim he was a foreign student. He, like Elizabeth Warren, lied to game the affirmative action system and reap the benefits of claiming special status. The lie persisted when he “wrote” his first book.


45 posted on 01/09/2018 8:37:06 AM PST by LibertyJihad
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