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To: chris37

Honest questions respectfully asked here......

How does refusal to comply with this change the timeline for the return of Christ?

Why would the church want to delay the return of Christ?

Is national ID system (we sort of have universal ID already in the form of a license and an SSN) really the mark of the beast?

You are already required to have ID to make major purchases are you not? I don’t see where I am denying Christ by presenting ID and making a purchase with my phone for example.

I am not too excited about this either way, but I have never understood the visceral reaction or the correlation between the mark of the beast and a national ID (which we sort of already have). For that matter, I have never understood the revulsion to digital currency since I rarely ever handle cash.

What am I missing here?


69 posted on 01/25/2018 11:19:33 PM PST by volunbeer ("I will appoint a special prosecutor to look into your (Hillary) situation" - Trump - we are waiting)
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To: volunbeer

I might be the wrong person to ask that particular question to.

I am not a particularly religious person, even though I believe in Jesus Christ very much and pray often. I generally reject religion.

However, I distrust our government so much that I literally view it as that hydra I posted above.

I think it’s pure evil. I think it is the Beast, and I have called it The Axis of Evil, and that is what I think it is.

I will not accept this type of ID from it. If that particular prophecy is true, which it may very well be, then this, I think, would be it.


73 posted on 01/25/2018 11:28:24 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: volunbeer

Like most... You’ve come up with black and white, just rendered differently.

Now if you want some fun, try Calvinism vs. Arminianism. No fair trying to be biblical.


74 posted on 01/25/2018 11:31:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: volunbeer

If we already have an ID, we don’t need another. Most especially this. I don’t have smart phone, GPS, or Alexa.
All this spying on everyone is creepy.

Eisenhower got the illegals to go home, and he didn’t need any stinkin additional ID to do it. Search for operation wetback.


85 posted on 01/25/2018 11:52:40 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: volunbeer
You've never wore a tinfoil hat, have you? /s

Discussion threads like this one draw them out in droves. Incredible.

96 posted on 01/26/2018 12:05:23 AM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: volunbeer

God’s timeline is fixed, actually. It would include either path our nation takes. (I love the movie “Next”) There are conditions in the Bible that must be met before the return and if I am right (I have doubts) there should be a global awakening before the Great Tribulation and the coming of the Messiah.

While the holy ones do not want to delay the coming of the Messiah, we know to wait on the LORD and I have learned that His wrath and judgment are also “delayed” until conditions (of evil) are met. Did you know that the Israelites wandered around the wilderness to fulfill 2 conditions? 1. The evil of the nations to be invaded was not yet fulfilled and 2. the generation that left Egypt was to die in the wilderness.

The national ID is not the mark of the beast because the dragon, beast, and false prophet rule the world so it would be a global mark. Saves time if the nations have everyone in the database before they are revealed, eh?

You are not denying Christ by using Id. You will be denying Christ if you accept the mark. God seals the holy ones (saints) first (Rev 7).


251 posted on 01/26/2018 4:49:04 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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