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5 things you (probably) didn’t know about Henry VIII
History Extra ^ | January 25, 2018

Posted on 01/28/2018 9:43:51 AM PST by beaversmom

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To: RegulatorCountry

Admitting that YOU are an uneducated, uncultured boob, are you? ;^)


141 posted on 01/29/2018 11:33:52 AM PST by nopardons
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To: RooRoobird20

It has been rumored that Thomas More tortured heretics on his property - sometimes tying them to trees. It has not been proven, though. Henry allowed Anne to have an expert executioner who appeared to be one of many other people on the platform so she wouldn’t be unduly alarmed by the sight of a masked man. As shown in Wolf Hall, he distracted her as well. That scene was beautifully done and Claire Foy was excellent as always.


142 posted on 01/29/2018 11:35:50 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Perhaps that was "it", for you and those whom you went to school with; however, that didn't hold true for older generations/schools & textbooks in other places of this nation.

And outside of school, the general public, here, in America, used to know all about Brit history and Henry VII, from books and movies; it was part of general knowledge, no matter what religion one practiced.

143 posted on 01/29/2018 11:38:28 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Perhaps that was "it", for you and those whom you went to school with; however, that didn't hold true for older generations/schools & textbooks in other places of this nation.

And outside of school, the general public, here, in America, used to know all about Brit history and Henry VII, from books and movies; it was part of general knowledge, no matter what religion one practiced.

144 posted on 01/29/2018 11:38:31 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
beyond the pale

Interesting choice of words in context. I apparently have some ancestors who were literally thus, up in Co. Wicklow. So, guilty as charged, lol.

145 posted on 01/29/2018 11:38:57 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: miss marmelstein

Yes, it was and they also used to have adds in subway cars, as well. :-)


146 posted on 01/29/2018 11:39:12 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Admitting that YOU are an uneducated, uncultured boob, are you? ;^)

No, I just play one to get you cranked up for amusement.

147 posted on 01/29/2018 11:40:25 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: MD Expat in PA

Wolf Hall is interesting precisely because it from a Protestant point of view. It is a bit of a fun house mirror to A Man for All Seasons. The usually hated Cardinal Wolsey is played by a very sympathetic Jonathan Pryce. The usually pious man of deep integrity, Thomas More, is suddenly a bitchy Anton Lesser. Very, very well done and you should finish up the series before the second season is released!


148 posted on 01/29/2018 11:42:13 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: RegulatorCountry

Anglican church services in some parts of the world ( the UK, Bermuda, and America ), as far late as the 1960s, were more “HIGH CHURCH”, than Catholic services, here were. They were probably closer to what both Catholic and Henry’s church services were like, when he was alive.


149 posted on 01/29/2018 11:43:18 AM PST by nopardons
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To: RegulatorCountry

I am an observant American Roman Catholic, converted to Catholicism for 25 years. In all this time, I have never read/heard any Catholics in my parish or officially through my church (priests’ writings and homilies etc.) say one bad word about Henry the 8th. Not one word.

I stay away from the religious threads here at FR, they usually become very ugly. I also don’t like it when a well-meaning religious Freeper posts a 35 screen rant trying to score points on his/her interpretations of the Bible.

Before I was Roman Catholic I was non-denominational “born again” Christian. Then, it was routine for whoever the pastor was to regularly denounce Catholics and Mormons in particular. These pastors were VERY concerned about pronouncing who was and wasn’t going to go to hell (and of course, they assumed they weren’t LOL).


150 posted on 01/29/2018 11:44:11 AM PST by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves."y)
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To: nopardons

I’m acquainted, although they’re known as Episcopal here.


151 posted on 01/29/2018 11:44:50 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: miss marmelstein

I thought the BBC’s Wolf Hall was very well done and I thought Claire Foy was a very good Anne Boleyn.


152 posted on 01/29/2018 11:46:31 AM PST by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves."y)
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To: RooRoobird20

I didn’t say a word about anyone but lay Catholics who comment on FR threads pertaining specifically to Henry VIII or to England/UK in general. They’re practically uniformly negative. They’re also uniformly mistaken in the belief that he was Protestant.


153 posted on 01/29/2018 11:48:07 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RooRoobird20

It was obviously a meticulous production with high production values and very fine actors.


154 posted on 01/29/2018 11:50:27 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: RooRoobird20
But I think mostly the intention of The Tudors was to be more serious history than camp entertainment.

I have to disagree with you on that. If that was their intent, they failed miserably as it to me looked and felt more like an interpretation of history as seen through a director who makes soft porno movies or MTV videos and has not read anything of the historical period.

FWIW, I watched the movie Marie Antoinette written and directed by Sofia Coppola and starring Kirsten Dunst. And as bad as it was in some parts, with its use of modern music in some sequences and use of some, if not many story telling liberties, it was still more faithful to history than The Tudors.

155 posted on 01/29/2018 11:51:30 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: RegulatorCountry
It's a perfectly GOOD phrase, hardly interesting ( and yes, I know, full well, what it means and its origin ), and has NOTHING at all to do with Ireland, nor the Irish...at any time. It's from RUSSIA and the time of Catherine the Great; referring to a wooden fence, behind which Jews were forced to lived...and forbidden to live anywhere else.

Just as the the word ghetto is Italian and the name given to the area where Italian Jews were forced to live, during an even earlier time period.

156 posted on 01/29/2018 11:51:46 AM PST by nopardons
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To: RegulatorCountry
Hardly...LOL

I'm not "cranked up" at all; just glad to see that you're finally admitting, in public, just what and who you are.

157 posted on 01/29/2018 11:53:01 AM PST by nopardons
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To: RegulatorCountry

Can you tell us exactly what good Henry VIII did? I’m sure we’re all willing to listen. I mean outside of (maybe) writing Greensleeves and having a dancer’s leg.


158 posted on 01/29/2018 11:53:02 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: nopardons

This is where I always thought the Pale was, lol. Recently, I heard some Brit saying it was in Soho or something. I’m barely joking!


159 posted on 01/29/2018 11:55:10 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
Wolf Hall is interesting precisely because it from a Protestant point of view. It is a bit of a fun house mirror to A Man for All Seasons. The usually hated Cardinal Wolsey is played by a very sympathetic Jonathan Pryce. The usually pious man of deep integrity, Thomas More, is suddenly a bitchy Anton Lesser. Very, very well done and you should finish up the series before the second season is released!

I plan to watch the entire series as soon as I catch up with all the GOT episodes I’ve missed. Jonathan Pryce alone makes nearly everything worth watching. : )

160 posted on 01/29/2018 11:57:47 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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