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The Dark Side Of Joe Kennedy Sr.
ATI ^ | January 31, 2018 | Kellen Perry

Posted on 02/03/2018 6:44:24 AM PST by beaversmom

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To: originalbuckeye
That would be Rosemary.......

You are correct.

21 posted on 02/03/2018 8:10:39 AM PST by Drew68
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To: beaversmom

No he gained immense wealth bootlegging whisky into the US through Canada during prohibition with his buddies Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano. A tidbit they left out oif the article.


22 posted on 02/03/2018 8:29:08 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: beaversmom

Joe Kennedy, Sr. was Boston’s version of Al Capone. He should have been charged with treason during WWII when he was ambassador to GB.


23 posted on 02/03/2018 8:34:51 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: A_Former_Democrat

America’s biggest regret is that SOB wasn’t sterile
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Fully agree! ...Also noticed there was no mention in the article of Joe’s activities during the prohibition years, when he was using boats to take Canadian liquor across the lakes to the USA, a felonious activity that helped to make him a very rich man.


24 posted on 02/03/2018 8:37:59 AM PST by octex
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To: Hot Tabasco

There is a curse on the person who serves, who sells, who gives liquor.

“Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also, that thou mayest look on their nakedness! Thou art filled with shame for glory: drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered: the cup of the LORD’S right hand shall be turned unto thee, and shameful spewing shall be on thy glory.” Hab. 2:15,16

Kennedy made his fortune through bootlegged liquor . . .


25 posted on 02/03/2018 8:41:05 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Hot Tabasco

It was self-imposed

Live by the sword, die by the sword

This family is the biggest fraud in American history

Beating out the Clintons and Obamas by a hair


26 posted on 02/03/2018 8:52:53 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Another Islamic terrorist event, and no “outrage” from the “Muslim community”. Again)
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To: beaversmom

I’ve always imagined Joe making the mistake of bargaining with the Devil.

“Let my sons rise to power”

Only to lose 3 of them and a daughter, and have babbling Ted the lone survivor.


27 posted on 02/03/2018 8:55:12 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: EC Washington

“The article skips how many people were killed as Old Joe took control of Scotch Whiskey importing during prohibition. Joe was in bed with the NY mob to distribute the Scotch Whiskey he made $millions on.”

I don’t fault him for that. Prohibition was an evil law and should have been disobeyed by everyone.


28 posted on 02/03/2018 8:58:30 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: beaversmom

Don Kennedy will make you an offer you can’t refuse.


29 posted on 02/03/2018 8:59:36 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Drew68
Fearing she would embarrass the family, Joe took his slightly dimwitted and rebellious but otherwise normal 23-year old daughter and quite literally had her brains scrambled while she was conscious and reciting the Lord's Prayer.

That is a sickening story (I previously read about it in depth). If I recall correctly, the real reason for the lobotomy was that Rosemary was beginning to have relationships with men and Joe felt that if she got pregnant or caught up in a scandal, that it would damage the political careers of his sons. She might have been a bit of a dullard (like Chelsea Clinton) but there is no reason that Rosemary couldn't have had a normal life, found a man for herself and been a wife and mother. But she just didn't meet the "Kennedy standard" for women.

Even more sickening is the fact that so many women worshipped this family over the decades.

The Kennedy men by and large were very contemptuous of the women in their lives. Not just lobotomizing an adult daughter out of fear she might embarrass the family but using them like sex toys, dumping them into rivers (and leaving them for dead) and treating their wives like doormats. I can go on.

Yet even to this day, the same women who show up to protest President Trump in pink pussy hats because he evidently engaged in some off-color locker room talk, will throw themselves at the feet of these Kennedy men and grovel.

30 posted on 02/03/2018 9:14:14 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: mindburglar

That’s his great-grandson, Robert’s grandson.


31 posted on 02/03/2018 9:19:41 AM PST by Defiant (I may be deplorable, but I'm not getting in that basket.)
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To: elcid1970

Or his private life as a woman chaser...for which he was famous elsewhere.


32 posted on 02/03/2018 9:25:28 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: beaversmom
there is only a small margin of justice in that the POS was chair bound and could only cry and soil itself for the last eight years of it's life
33 posted on 02/03/2018 9:31:30 AM PST by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: elcid1970
Doesn’t even mention his start in business as a bootlegger.

Even when they are supposedly telling the truth about the kennedys it's a whitewashed truth. Starting at least with Joe Sr. they were criminals, mobsters, murderers, rapists, addicts and thieves.............and that was on their good days!

No matter how much lipstick the kennedy worshipers try to put on it

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34 posted on 02/03/2018 9:41:32 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

In MA of the “Southies” I have met an been able to discuss “things” over a beer. They seem to be the ones most taken in by the Kennedy myth. Many of them also think Whitey Bolger is Robin Hood. Which I find “interesting”!


35 posted on 02/03/2018 9:46:13 AM PST by Reily
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To: beaversmom
or if he regretted lobotomizing and institutionalizing his mentally-ill first daughter, Rosemary, in 1941 and insisting that uttering her name was verboten in the Kennedy house.

The book, "Sins of the Father" by Ronald Kessler explains Rosemary's problem the best.

She was not mentally-ill, she had a learning disability and she was sort of a klutz. When the Kennedy's would all gather on the lawn to play sports, Rosemary did not excel. And old Joe thought that was not normal and he could not fathom having someone in the family who was not athletically perfect. (Eugenics much?)

Some have written that she was mentally retarded, however she could do higher-level math with ease.

What old Joe worried about was that she was so beautiful, he thought that she would become a loose woman and "embarrass" him by getting pregnant and flaunting herself. She did tend to be a bit erratic at times, but then if you were the family klutz in a family where physicality was a top priority, you'd be a bit upset too.

Because she was deemed a "problem" he decided to act without his wife's knowledge and found a doctor who would lobotomize her in order to straighten her out. The procedure caused her to become mentally incapacitated.

Yes, her father paid for someone to cripple his daughter mentally.

So, the Special Olympics, supposedly created in the honor of a mentally retarded Rosemary Kennedy, has a very crippled foundation.

36 posted on 02/03/2018 9:55:37 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
He had more than one of those. In the big thick bio of JFK around here, there's an interesting vignette -- JFK and Joe Sr are arguing that the slightly older German photographer (the one with some Hitler connections) JFK was dating at the time wasn't right for him. She recounted that, when JFK would storm out to cool down, Joe Sr would hit on her. Thanks beaversmom.

37 posted on 02/03/2018 10:26:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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38 posted on 02/03/2018 10:29:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Slyfox

I read “Sins of the Father,” by Ron Kessler a while back. He had to be the biggest scoundrel of his era. He was an unapologetic adulterer even regularly bringing his paramours to the Kennedy Compound in Hyannis Port. Rose even became close friends with some of them. Although he made a fortune bootlegging and importing during Prohibition, he wasn’t an alcoholic. He usually limited himself to one after-dinner Irish whiskey on the rocks. He also made a fortune in the manipulation of securities.

I finished it in three evenings. Fascinating, but sad and anger-provoking. I needn’t dwell on Rosemary as Slyfox covered that ground completely and accurately.


39 posted on 02/03/2018 10:39:30 AM PST by huckfillary
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To: huckfillary
Old Joe's sex training for his boys was throwing porno on their beds.

And, when the Kennedy brothers and sisters changed into their bathing suits for swimming they all did it in the same room, boys and girls. They got naked together and didn't think anything of it.

That just creeps me out. I came from a large family and we always dressed separately out of respect for our bodies.

40 posted on 02/03/2018 11:08:17 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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