Posted on 02/06/2018 7:37:53 AM PST by Theoria
There was a news story some years ago about Greek amphorae (jugs) and coins found by scuba divers in a bay off the coast of Brazil or some other South American country. So either ancient Greek sailors made it to the New World, or someone transporting ancient Greek artifacts much more recently lost their cargo overboard.
The Extraordinary Voyage of Pytheas the Greek
by Barry CunliffeFacing the Ocean:
The Atlantic and Its Peoples
8000 BC-AD 1500
by Barry CunliffePytheas of Massalia:
On the Ocean:
Text, Translation and Commentary
by Christina Horst RosemanNorth to Thule:
An Imagined Narrative
of the Famous Lost Sea Voyage
of Pytheas of Massalia
in the 4th Century B.C.
by John Frye
and Harriet Frye
The wreck is in the Bay of Jars, Rio de Janiero, was explored by Robert Marx in the 1960s, but the Brazilian gubmint kicked him out and forbade future study of the site.
Thanks Theoria. Looks like another good idea for the weekly digest ping, so perhaps two isn't too many.
If anything, it's far more likely that this refers to Thule or some other variation of it either on, or directly offshore, the Eurasian continent.
Smugglers with contraband historical artifacts just throwing it overboard when about to be caught?
That would explain all the homos up there ;)
That would explain all the homos up there ;)
Because the vessels of the Tahitians and Vikings were sufficiently seaworthy to make such trips, and those of the Greeks were not. A great many triremes were lost due to bad weather even when hugging the coasts in the Med.
How do you separate the men from the boys in Greece?
That was more or less my assumption when I first heard about it. Occam's razor and all that...
YES!!! I knew it wasn’t made up!
It was the Ouzo!
“Did they dig the money pit on Oak Island?”
Ha Ha, that’s what I was thinking.
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I think it is likely that the Greeks reached New Foundland. The route was not as far as most maps show and may have been better know than we know.
Over the years I have come to the conclusion that archaeolgists don’t own boats.
The richest people of the time were shippers and we’re talking Gates level numbers.
Sailors will sail and putting together a group of 5 or 6 triremes would not be a problem for most shippers. Quite easy actually.
I also suspect that there was a lot more travel between the continents was than we know.
"The Zunis of New Mexico are different from other Native Americans in many ways. In an impressive, very detailed paper in the NEARA Journal, N.Y. Davis summarizes her investigation of these anomalies as follows:
"...evidence suggesting Asian admixture is found in Zuni biology, lexicon, religion, social organization, and oral traditions of migration. Possible cultural and language links of Zuni to California, the social disruption at the end of the Heian period of the 12th century in Japan, the size of Japanese ships at the time of proposed migration, the cluster of significant changes in the late 13th century in Zuni, all lend further credibility to a relatively late prehistoric contact.""
I think you had Viking, Basque & Irish visitors to the New World. The evidence is pretty clear on Viking visitations. The latter groups were fishing the Grand Banks. So it’s not hard to figure shipwrecks and the need for a place to beach and affect repairs in a secure location.
That’s what happened with the Solutreans.
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