[Red Badger]

DUH!.....................

[Dilbert San Diego]

It isn’t quite true to say that electric cars are zero emission.

In many places, the electricity used to recharge is generated in a coal fired power plant. The kind of power plant which the enviro extremists claim are emitting hte dreaded greenhouse gases.

So even by the extremists own criteria, more electric cars equals greater emission from power plants.

[Tijeras_Slim]

I used to worry about the range, but Tesla seems to have a model that can go 34 million miles on one charge.

[VietVet876]

Electric vehicles belong on other planets and on golf courses. OK, marinas, auto race tracks and I’ll give you some villages mostly in Florida where the average age of residents is higher than the yearly mean in coastal Bangladesh—in Fahrenheit.

[cp124]

Death trap.

[RayChuang88]

Electric cars won't be viable until the following:

1. Everyone agrees on a single standard for DC fast charging and AC slow charging, including charging voltages and especially plug design.
2. The range per charge has to reach around 500 km (310 miles).
3. A battery can be full-charged from essentially no change within 7-10 minutes.

[Mount Athos]

friend of mine has lifetime free charging on his tesla at supercharger stations, so he never charges at home.
He charges it while he goes to starbucks.

The problem is that the model 3 is selling so well that his stations are going to be overfull a lot of the time soon

[catnipman]

"zero emissions" ... only if you don't count the emissions produced when the electricity is generated that's used to charge their batteries:

[Rio]

They think that they’re saving the planet, so it’s worth the expense.

[jerod]

Electric cars are a dud... They were when they were introduced to the public back in the 19th century... Now that it’s the 21st century, the improvements are vast and the result is essentially the same... You can fill a car with gas, drive 350 to 400 miles, stop for 10 minutes and drive another 350 to 400 miles. If you have the very best electric car, you can drive for 200 to 250 miles... You can then spend anywhere from 30 minutes to 12 hours recharging your car and drive another 200 or so miles.

Even if electric car makers someday attain the ability to go farther and be charged in less time... That ‘someday’ is many decades away and frankly... There is no need to be bothered. Gas engines are more efficient with each passing year, more reliable and more enjoyable to drive which makes the likelihood of Electric car sales ever rising above single digit percentage mark less and less likely in our lifetime and even in the lifetime of our children.

Every nickle in in taxpayer subsidies paid out to support the electric car market for the rich and famous, is a nickle wasted. Trump should end all subsidies toward this failed and foolish notion of electric cars actually becoming an alternative to the internal combustion engine.

Driving a car is much more than driving from point ‘a’ to point ‘b’... It’s about the roar of an engine, the smell of oil and gas, the feel of raw power, torque and gravity being controlled by your foot pushing a gas peddle.

The electric vehicle experience will never compare.

[Gay State Conservative]

My diesel has a highway range of 700 miles and can be "recharged" in 4 minutes at any one of 35,000 "recharging" stations nationwide at a cost that I'm willing and able to accept.

It's hard to imagine an electric car matching that in my lifetime...particularly with Obola having basically bankrupted the coal industry.

[adorno]

Electric cars are cheaper to fuel. It costs $600 per year to charge a Leaf... by comparison, you'll spend $1,050 on gas to fill up the Civic.

That's A phony comparison.

In fact, it's the biggest deception that EV proponents and EV makers keep perpetrating.

Sure enough, it might cost around $1,000 per year to fuel up the Civic.

But, "fueling" up the Leaf is a lot more expensive.

So, for ten years usage, the Civic might cost $10,000 to fuel up.

The leaf will cost $6,000 for ten years. But, that's where the BIG deception lies.

Here's why it's a big deception...

When you use a flashlight with batteries, you need to get new batteries to "refuel" the flashlight. Thus, the "fuel" will end up costing more in the long run than the flashlight itself, because of the many batteries that have to be bought.

Now, the "fuel" for electric vehicle is NOT JUST THE ELECTRICITY to "refuel" the vehicle. The TOTAL fuel for an EV is the total cost of the battery and the electricity. So, if an EV's battery were to cost $10,000 if bought separately, the total cost of "fueling" up the EV would be $10,000 plus the $6,000 electricity. We're talking about $16,000 for 10 years.

BUT, THAT'S NOT ALL!!!!

An EV's battery will have to be replaces some 6-8 years down the line; perhaps 10 years if you're lucky. So, at that point, we're talking about another $6,000 for replacing the old battery with a new one, if we're lucky.

So, at that point, we're talking about total cost of "fueling" costs of $22,000 for an EV.

In order for the "deception" to disappear from the total cost of ownership, the ICE car makers would have to toss in the cost of refueling for 10 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first. At that point, EVs would be completely out of the question.

Bottom line is that, when an EV is purchased, people are also being sold the "fuel" to power the vehicle. Without the battery the electricity would be a moot point. Thus, the total fuel for an EV is the batteries plus the electricity.

[central_va]

Taking an EV out when it is 3 deg F out side is risking your life unnecessarily.

[RKBA Democrat]

Widespread adoption of EVs isn’t going to happen. The electrical grid can’t handle it.

Ironically there is a low emissions vehicle that works, has been around for decades and the fuel can be had for less than gasoline: CNG vehicles. But they’re not sexy and companies can’t milk tax breaks so they’re relatively unheard of.

[RegulatorCountry]

You can get a very decent serviceable electric car for a reasonable price by buying a late model off lease vehicle, the battery life is still very good and they’re not selling at much if any premium over gasoline powered cars.

If you just use it to drive around town, have a fairly short commute and park it at home at night, that’s when you charge it and that’s when the electricity is cheapest. It’s a very economical thing for people in the right circumstance.

It’s also not stupid to have a vehicle that does not rely upon the primary infrastructure for fueling transportation. Set up a solar carport for it, use the panels for the roof of a simple lean-to structure oriented south, in an emergency the car will be charged in a day or so. Better than walking.

[DCBryan1]

Ask all those green weenies during the hurricane that fled the keys and Miami how far they got! Traffic...heat.......an electric car is a death sentence if it is your bug out vehicle.

[nicollo]

So, if you needed to carry around energy to use at some point in the future, of equal weight, which would you choose:

1. a battery;
or
2. a gallon of gasoline ?

No. 2 is far more stable, portable, and energy-dense than no. 1.

[chrisser]

It’s too bad electric cars only come in “fun size” (Tesla excepted). In 8 or so years, when the batteries are too expensive to replace, I wager you’ll be able to pick them up for pennies on the dollar. Swap in a gas engine and away you go...

[JimRed]

That $7,500 tax credit comes out of all our pockets.