Couldn't tell by looking, but Roosevelt was the youngest of the three by several years.
Posted on 02/11/2018 12:44:35 PM PST by Bull Snipe
It was a combination of both.
I'm sure Hitler tried to convince Japan to attack Russia when Germany did, but obviously Japan wanted no part of that.
England’s intelligence was crawling with Soviet assets, and U.S.’ intelligence downfall was trusting them.
Look up the Battle of Khalkhin Gol!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol
and you will see why Japan chose to ignore Hitler.
I’m no fan of FDR, but that’s horsecrap.
FDR had no love for Stalin....Churchill said it best. “....if Hitler had invaded Hell ‘I would make at least a favorable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons.’”
His administration was riddled with communists and fellow travelers.
Somewhere along through the years I’ve seen a photo of Wallace bent down after being hit in the head by a brick or something someone threw at him during an outdoor campaign stop. The crowd was made up of union members.
At Potsdam, Truman mentioned to Stalin (through an interpreter) that the US had just tested (actually during the conference) a bomb of immense power. Stalin played dumb, just nodded, but sent an inquiry back home to get a progress report on the Soviet bomb. The first Soviet test wasn't until 1949, and their designs were based on US designs stolen through espionage.
In fairness to FDR, he only sold out to Stalin because Churchill tricked him into. Churchill screwed over the U.S. in a major way.
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Churchill wanted the Godless Bolsheviks to annex eastern Poland up to the Curzon line?
“They gave up because Stalin refused to mediate a surrender and instead entered the war against Japan.”
Like Germany, the Japanese would much rather see an American occupation.
By the way, I don't know see why the U.S. didn't force Russia to declare war on Japan immediately. They gave Russia until three months after the European war ended.
Couldn't tell by looking, but Roosevelt was the youngest of the three by several years.
Archie Bunker: “Roosevelt sold us out to Joe Stalin at Gibraltar”!.....Cousin Maude: “They met at Yalta!”....Archie: “He sold us out there to!” (A little ‘All in the Family’ from 1972!)
Well, to be fair, Churchill *tried* to do it, having had a note passed to Stalin suggesting a percentage of influence split between the UK and USSR for the Balkan states. Stalin mock-innocenctly brought it up when all three were meeting, pretending to have assumed that FDR was already down with it.
Another odd vignette -- Molotov was translating for Stalin, and wasn't giving him all the content of the English language side of things. The US translator (I forget the name, he later wrote a book about it) said, "there's a little more, Molotov" in Russian, so that Stalin would hear. The part that Molotov was leaving out pertained to the Soviet proposal to be able to veto even debate about topics. Stalin (who was, no doubt, aware of it the whole time) said, Molotov, what is this madness? Let them have debate, it is a small right.
Stalin knew about the Manhattan Project long before Truman. Truman had no clue until TWO WEEKS AFTER he became president. Truman wanted to let Stalin know, and was planning on an exhibition before August 8th, which would serve as a warning to Stalin.
When Barbarossa began, Stalin was reportedly unable to function (this is in the newest bios of S), unwilling to accept that Hitler had broken his word. The fact is, Molotov had been sent immediately to the east and met with Japanese officials; he sent word back to Stalin that he believed the czarist-era treaties would hold, and Stalin ordered every military asset pulled out of the east and thrown against the Germans. The trains loaded up in Siberia, unloaded west of the Urals, and rolled back empty to bring more. Meanwhile whole conscripted "patriotic armies" were sent with weapons but minimal training in unexperienced officers against the German advance.
What was Roosevelt supposed to do about the Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe in February 1945?
The Red Army took Lemberg/Lwow/Lvov/Lviv in June 1944! They were on the Vistula line by August 1944. Army Group Center had been destroyed in Operation Bagration.
Two weeks before Yalta, the Red Army occupied Warsaw, and deployed 163 divisions, 4500 tanks, 13 600 artillery pieces, and 5000 aircraft in the most formidable array of combat power ever seen in the history of the world before or since.
IF something was to be done about postwar arrangements (other than the fait accompli ratified at Yalta), it should have been done by January 1943 at the latest.
Once the Sixth Army surrendered at Stalingrad, the course of European history east of the Oder was set in stone.
I'm not saying he wanted it, but he was willing to give up almost anything to the Russians for them for the Russian to present a string Eastern front to Germans. The thing is, the Russian had no choice. The U.S. and U.K. should have had all the leverage. What was Stalin going to do, retreat into Siberia? The reality, Churchill was a terrible negotiator and gave away everything. Hitler saved Russia, by the way.
How do you force Stalin to anything?
Anyway by then with the war winding up in Europe I imagine we had very little leverage with Stalin.
Yes, in the movie “Stalin”, with Robert Duval, they portray Stalin as locking himself away for 10 days alone in the dark, and Molotov basically had to coax Stalin to come out and address the nation.
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