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UFO ‘evidence’: Recordings reveal air traffic control’s confusion at strange craft over Oregon
foxnews.com ^ | Jamie Seidel

Posted on 02/19/2018 3:59:47 PM PST by RoosterRedux

On October 25, a strange craft was seen — in broad daylight — flying amid the heavy traffic of the United States’ air corridors above the state of Oregon.

Pilots radioed in reports of an aircraft flying outside registered flight plans. It was not responding to radio calls. It had no collision-avoidance transponders. But it was always just outside clear sight.

On the ground, air traffic control was also seeing strange things. Its radar was intermittently tracking an unregistered object moving at unusually high speeds.

It was cause for real concern.

After all, 9/11 showed the potential havoc aircraft flying “dark” could achieve.

So F-15 interceptor fighters from the U.S. Air Force were scrambled to take a look.

The story was first picked up by "The War Zone" blog of the automotive website The Drive. It tracked down comments from the pilots that had seen something strange that day. It also obtained confirmation — of sorts — from the U.S. air base that launched the fighters.

Now "War Zone" has obtained ─ through a freedom of information claim ─ a small mountain of documents and hours of audio recordings detailing Oregon’s air traffic controllers' actions.

Amid the accounts of phone calls, radio exchanges and pilot interviews is an enticing picture of what a substantive UFO report looks like, and how authorities struggle to make sense of what is going on above them.

‘THAT LOOKS CRAZY’

The unidentified flying object was first detected tearing through the air above Northern California by radar stations in Oakland. It was 4:30 p.m. It was unexpected. It was traveling “very fast at 37,000”.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; california; f15; fringe; meteorite; oakland; ohsomysteriouso; oregon; radarsighting; thedrive; thewarzoneblog; tictac; ufo; ufos
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To: JockoManning

“HUGE’, ‘PREPONDERANCE’, ‘EVIDENCE’, ‘EXOTIC’ ‘PILOT ALIVE’ (which?)

Lotsa big words, nice propaganda; but no ‘PROOF’.


61 posted on 02/19/2018 6:57:12 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: RoosterRedux
Well, I guess this is the time to revisit:

L.A. Speed Check

I guess that's roughly 50 year old technology.

62 posted on 02/19/2018 6:59:02 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Space itself can travel at faster than light speed.

Space is the absence of matter. It is non-material.

Non-material things can exceed the speed of light because they have no mass. E=MCsquared where M=0 , means the E( Energy required to get to speed of light or faster) =0.

Assuming that is true, then we will never, ever find out how big the allegedly expanding universe is because it is expanding faster than the speed of light.

Unless it's infinite and then one must ponder, where is space going to ?

63 posted on 02/19/2018 7:02:32 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: JockoManning
Not all fallen angels were caught in the flood by a long shot.

Maybe there was more than one boat.

64 posted on 02/19/2018 7:05:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: JockoManning
UFO's were one of the main reasons so many FREEPERS were hostile to Qx. They thought he was bringing disrepute to FR and diminishing it's influence--making FR more of a laughing stock--by talking about UFO's.

The problem with being 'ahead of your time' is that people believe you are insane.

65 posted on 02/19/2018 7:08:12 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Jamestown1630
Cheers.

We don't tend to wrestle with folks who are addicted so extensively to avoiding any hint of a false positive error that they more or less make certain they'll be bitten a lot in the rear by a lot of false negative errors.

We've been around that mountain a few thousand times and are not interested in any repeat trips.

We are quite comfortable with our assessment of the evidence and our conclusions. We realize that mileage may vary.

Thanks but no thanks.

Perhaps you can find sufficient proofs to satisfy your criteria in a math or physics class. The UFO field is highly unlikely to comply with your demands--though the DOD film is evidence that the officials are moving in the direction of humoring you and cohorts with a gradually escalating level of "proofs."

66 posted on 02/19/2018 7:20:24 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: UCANSEE2
Not all the fallen angels had been humping human women--evidently trapping those who did--in a kind of physical state making them vulnerable to the flood.

Satan still has plenty to join in the Armageddon battle.

67 posted on 02/19/2018 7:21:44 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: UCANSEE2

Qx got a wry smile at that one. The story of his life in his career as a bird of rare plumage.


68 posted on 02/19/2018 7:22:45 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

I’m a Human Bean, Jocko; and I’m interested in speaking to other Humans.

We Humans move around in ‘common sense world’.

Your ‘assessment of evidence’ means nothing to us, unless you give some evidence of your assessment ,

(And what do you mean by ‘DOD’ film? You’re not one of those DelongO JerkOs, are you???)


69 posted on 02/19/2018 7:36:45 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630
Not my problem.

The DOD film published 2-3 months or so ago from the military plane cockpit. It was an official disclosure put out by the Department of Defense.

Tom DeLonge has, in his organization, some high powered recently retired experts who have worked in the thick of such black projects most of their lives. Feel free to trash them however much you wish. One of them has probably forgotten more info about such craft than most FREEPERS ever learned. All of them together certainly know a ton of hard data on the topic.

Tom is a character--and therefore, probably perfect for the government PTB to use just as they are using him. And, his selling himself to speak convincingly to the younger generation is probably fitting, as well.

It sounds like you have several buckets of rocks to throw--so help yourself. Just don't expect me to respond much.

70 posted on 02/19/2018 7:44:41 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

I think the actual release of the film to which you are referring took place YEARS prior to the BOOM! release to which you apparently want to direct us.

As a number of men whom I greatly respect have said at different times:

“Don’t pee on my back and...”

I’m sure you know the rest.


71 posted on 02/19/2018 8:02:48 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: JockoManning

This is a joke, right?


72 posted on 02/19/2018 8:04:07 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: JockoManning

Now who would be you are better off believing? Albert Einstein or Stanton Friedman? Hmmm.... Most people would choose Einstein. However a belief in alien visitation has less to do with physics and more with evolutionary biology. Humans are the only species known that are capable of advanced mystical thinking. Some believe in ghosts, goblins, ghouls. Others are gratified with yoga, pet rocks, astrology and seyonces. Some think deeply and have their emotional and need for mystical expression exercised by a belief in aliens and an entire narrative that goes with it. That is not to mock mysticism. The human capacity for mysticism may be critical for creativity and inquiry as well as emotional gratification. In the final analysis, physical alien visitation is just not possible, however desperate and important it is for some people to fervently hope it to be true.


73 posted on 02/19/2018 8:04:25 PM PST by allendale (.)
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To: allendale

What he said; with some ‘mystical’ reservations...


74 posted on 02/19/2018 8:13:04 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: jmacusa
Not at all. I think it's on youtube but I don't recall the keywords enough to look it up.

Interestingly, it fit with conjectures Qx had already had. He just thought the two wars would likely be mushed together somehow.

Mercifully, the Bible indicates that "only" roughly half the population of the world to begin with--will be exterminated.

First will be 1/3 dying in roughly the same time. Then later on, another 1/3 of what's left will die. IIRC, that comes out to roughly half.

75 posted on 02/19/2018 8:45:44 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: allendale
You might tighten that death grip on your perspective. It's likely going to suffer some major cognitive dissonance on the near horizon.

We kind of enjoy it when smug hyper-rationalists have to re-calibrate their rationalizations for their tidy world views/cosmologies.

76 posted on 02/19/2018 8:47:56 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: allendale
This part is quite rich:

In the final analysis, physical alien visitation is just not possible, however desperate and important it is for some people to fervently hope it to be true.

Tell that to the more than 3 million abductees in the USA alone.

I guess you can't tell it to the individuals who were mutilated exactly as the cattle routinely are--but were they able, they'd laugh in your face, too.

77 posted on 02/19/2018 8:49:58 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: allendale
BTW, Einstein was involved in the studies of the UFO stuff to some degree. He was certainly involved in the Philadelphia Experiment--as was Tesla.

Qx has had 2 different adult friends--the fathers of both men--Qx's friends did not know each other--both their fathers had significant roles to play in the Philadelphia Experiment and asserted that the freaky stuff really happened.

78 posted on 02/19/2018 8:54:06 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning
Jocko I'm not a scientist of any kind. What I am is an amateur back yard astronomer and I consider that after making astronomy a near life long interest I can say a little bit on the subject. That other life exists out in the universe is without doubt. The same conditions and chemistry that produced life here certainly exist else where in the universe.

Whether that life is sentient enough to the point of being more or less advanced is speculation at best. I think it's a sign of a kind of collective human insecurity to always attribute alien life on other planets to be automatically much more advanced then we are. But in any case by all the known laws of physics that we know the notion of life forms traveling here and either being delivering angels come to better us or monsters to wipe us out like so much bacteria is nonsense. The distances from one star system, let alone other galaxies are just too vast. The astrophysics involved make interstellar travel virtually impossible.

79 posted on 02/19/2018 8:57:40 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: allendale

Not true. Google “The Fermi Paradox” or better yet read a book “The Paranormal Conspiracy,” which explains all that and more.


80 posted on 02/19/2018 9:03:39 PM PST by tjd1454
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