It Begins: Florida Resident’s Firearms, Ammunition Confiscated Under Gun Control Law

breitbart.com ^ | 03/16/18 | AWR HAWKINS

[lastchance]

Hey some towns here don’t even allow vegetable gardens in the front yard. Do you think they would amend zoning ordinances to allow for a body?

[lastchance]

Most of the time an emergency order for involuntary commitment for evaluation and treatment is for 72 hours. After that certain procedures which must take into account the rights of the person so committed must be observed. Such as right to have a hearing in front of a judge to appeal the finding of a psychiatrist who wants to hold the person for a longer time.

But hey I guess if paranoid schizophrenics are not allowed to keep their guns without adequate precautions taken to assure their safety and the safety of others we will all have our guns seized and be taken a ride to the FEMA camps in the morning.

[jyo19]

I think the law is overly broad and the NRA will win in court, buuuuuuut, this:

“Police were called after the man turned off the main electrical breakers to the condo building in Lighthouse Point, court records show. The South Florida Sun Sentinel is not identifying the man because of his medical condition.

The man told officers he “was being targeted and burglarized by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and a neighbor who lives in [his] building,” the judge wrote in his order. “[He] could not describe the neighbor but stated that the neighbor [can] ‘shape shift, he can change heights and I’m not sure where he comes from’ and ‘to be honest, he looks like Osama Bin Laden.’”

Yeah, this guy sounds like he actually does have a few screws loose...

[lastchance]

Yes the statute in part is overly broad and the NRA should win in court. But not in the part discussed here.

[lurk]

Y’all are nuts. Hand over yer guns.

[doorgunner69]

“four firearms and 267 rounds of ammunition”

Unquestionably, that was an "arsenal"!

[cyn]

In this case, yes. That’s why I read & linked this more in depth local article, http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-guns-seized-lighthouse-point-20180316-story.html

However, the article also pointed out that

// ...the civil ruling removing his access to guns and ammunition was granted under the new legislation — which permits confiscating guns from people ***who have not been committed but are deemed a *potential risk* to themselves or others*** ... //

New & dangerous ground here, many questions (in not so clear cut cases of mental illness — tho even still...more later), many concerns.

[faithhopecharity]

I don’t have knowledge about his electrical system, but he’s dead on right about obamma. 🎃

[grey_whiskers]

The only way to defeat these laws is Black Knighting: report every Democrat you know even slightly.

[grey_whiskers]

They can, but they never do: because felons shoot back first so to speak.

This will just disarm Republicans who are phoned in on by "concerned" Democrats.

[lastchance]

This is the section of the statute dealing with seized firearms.

“Firearms or ammunition seized or voluntarily surrendered
487 under this paragraph must be made available for return no later
488 than 24 hours after the person taken into custody can document
489 that he or she is no longer subject to involuntary examination
490 and has been released or discharged from any inpatient or
491 involuntary outpatient treatment provided or ordered under
492 paragraph (g), unless a risk protection order entered under s.
493 790.401 directs the law enforcement agency to hold the firearms
494 or ammunition for a longer period or the person is subject to a
495 firearm purchase disability under s. 790.065(2), or a firearm
496 possession and firearm ownership disability under s. 790.064.
497 The process for the actual return of firearms or ammunition
498 seized or voluntarily surrendered under this paragraph may not
499 take longer than 7 days.”

[lastchance]

Well, blind pigs and acorns, you know.

[1_Inch_Group]

That’s an interesting concept.

They’d have to be fully developed...not spurious claims.

[Fresh Wind]

Something is rotten in Broward.

We've known that about Coward County since at least 2000.

[Mark17]

Anyone can say you’re unstable and get LEO involved to take away (even if temporarily) your God given right to self defense.

Being as I am TOTALLY cynical of the government, I think this is exactly what these ass hats intend to do. Now, this dude may very well be a certified nut case, but you know darn good and well, the scum sucking dirt bags in government, will use it to try to take away MANY people's guns. How stupid do they think we are?

[Vendome]

Well, General Gage Jr. Let’s see how this ultimately plays out...again

[Vendome]

No, “reasonable” does not apply.

Probable cause is the issue...

[dp0622]

I was in a psych ward after having trouble dealing with a brain injury.

A LARGE number of folks were in there because they stopped taking their meds. They all said the same thing. It makes them feel dead inside or like zombies.

One guy who stopped taking them was found in his closet with a shsotgun.

I’m not making a case for or against. I just know that a lot of folks stop their meds and that’s rough.

But what if they decide people on prozac (half the country) are too mentally unfit to have guns?

We just need to watch the oft mentioned “slippery slope”

[PGalt]

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

[blueplum]

the guy thought his neighbor was shapeshifting

pretty strange fella