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Father of Collapsed Florida Bridge was Obama ‘Champion of Change’ in 2015
CFP ^ | 3/16/18 | Judi McLeod

Posted on 03/18/2018 4:58:46 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: Roman_War_Criminal
There are several Roman Aqueducts that still stand and are used for bridges - 2,000 years later.

Some spectacularly-high aqueducts in Portugal.

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41 posted on 03/19/2018 1:09:53 AM PDT by Does so (Let's make the word Mohammedism--adding it to other ISMs...)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Some people are so stupid they don’t know enough to even ask the right questions

The pylon and suspension cables are the things that keep it from COLLAPSING

they are not there to make it look pretty, or for decoration.

There is a special kind of stupid that occurs in Miami construction, we get it built, but usually have to do it twice.


42 posted on 03/19/2018 1:20:41 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: SamAdams76

Read a book on the Eads bridge in St Louis, and has a lot of other interesting info

Rising Tide: The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 and How it Changed America


43 posted on 03/19/2018 1:24:31 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I’ve built several 25 story and up post tension highrises

The cables or tendons are very different than bridge suspension cables and serve a different purpose.

The tendons in a post tension slab are there to reduce the amount of reinforcing steel necessary. They are pulled tight after the concrete in the slab has reached a specified strength, usually 75% of the 28 day design strength.

I’m thinking they were tensoning cables, not doing a “stress test” whatever the hell that is, because we never did them, or were required to.

If they were pulling cables that could mean the concrete slab was not even up to full strength.


44 posted on 03/19/2018 1:45:06 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: PA Engineer
For your reference: Diversity Fail? All-Women Engineering Team Blamed for Collapse of Miami Pedestrian Bridge

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There you go. Complete explanation in the story. The dummies didn't bother to install the supporting cables and center support.

Accident that was waiting to happen. Equal opportunity engineering, Obama style!

45 posted on 03/19/2018 3:41:31 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: entropy12

I understand. You are showing pictures of technology, engineering, materials science, that were all developed in the western world.


46 posted on 03/19/2018 3:43:23 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: dfwgator

All of the technolgy was invented, developed, and first used in the western world, mainly European.


47 posted on 03/19/2018 3:45:13 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: Rome2000
The pylon and suspension cables are the things that keep it from COLLAPSING

I would assume on paper, the span was designed to support itself unloaded. It seems to me if the stability of the span came into question or just tinkering with the stability, they should have shut down the road. The end result looks like they were alpha testing their product on the general public.

48 posted on 03/19/2018 4:34:38 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: Rome2000

Thanks for presenting an angle I didn’t think of: that the cables (whether all or some) weren’t tensioned AT ALL before the span was placed.

I’ve read a bit, and understand that the tendons are tensioned while the concrete is partially cured.

And, I could understand hypothetically that they might have been checking the cable tension, and/or possibly bringing it up to spec. Maybe an anchor pulled.

But, if they were tensioning the cables for the first time after placing the span, that strikes me as truly idiotic. Without tensioning before elevation, you’d essentially have a long concrete, weak, partially cured span with inadequate reinforcement and no tension. Who would authorize that?


49 posted on 03/19/2018 5:23:27 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: Rome2000

Perhaps the construction technique of tensioning after installation (if that’s what happened) should get its own acronym. I suggest changing ABC to mean “Accelerated Bridge Collapse.”


50 posted on 03/19/2018 5:24:51 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: Pearls Before Swine
But, if they were tensioning the cables for the first time after placing the span, that strikes me as truly idiotic.

That's Miami construction in a nutshell.

Sweat the details and miss the big picture entirely.

51 posted on 03/19/2018 9:09:34 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Haha, you would do well to study history! Below is a picture of a structure built 200 years BEFORE Christ was born. It still stands! It is the only object on earth astronauts can see with naked eye from space station.


52 posted on 03/19/2018 9:16:44 AM PDT by entropy12 (30 Million low wealth, low skill LEGAL chain migrants in 25 years is growing EXPONENTIALLY..)
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To: dforest

...Bridges that withstand “100 + years of services life”. Not even close, Jagoff...


53 posted on 03/19/2018 9:19:27 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: entropy12

It sure as heck ain’t in Africa, is it?


54 posted on 03/19/2018 12:54:21 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Nope, but the Pyramids are, and they are even older. How did the Africans get those huge blocks of solid rock so high to build the pyramids?


55 posted on 03/19/2018 12:59:38 PM PDT by entropy12 (30 Million low wealth, low skill LEGAL chain migrants in 25 years is growing EXPONENTIALLY..)
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To: entropy12

Arabs are not Africans. They are Semites.


56 posted on 03/19/2018 1:06:19 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Egypt is in Africa, not Arabia.


57 posted on 03/19/2018 1:08:55 PM PDT by entropy12 (30 Million low wealth, low skill LEGAL chain migrants in 25 years is growing EXPONENTIALLY..)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Regardless, neither the Chinese or the Egyptians built magnificent structures without any help from the Western World.


58 posted on 03/19/2018 1:10:39 PM PDT by entropy12 (30 Million low wealth, low skill LEGAL chain migrants in 25 years is growing EXPONENTIALLY..)
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To: entropy12

neither the Chinese or the Egyptians built magnificent structures without any help from the Western World.””

I was referring to blacks, not Semites, not Chinese, not other Asians.. I’m well aware of the Great Wall, the pyramids, and the Taj Mahal. I have done several research projects with Chinese, Koreans, and Asian Indians, all of which were good scientists. So, you can stop with the distortion and stop fomenting entropy. I had a bit of thermodynamics in a P Chem course too.


59 posted on 03/19/2018 1:57:55 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Here is a video by the guy that did Oroville dam updates. He offers some suggestions as to what might have happened. Lasts about 10 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxQJj8D_FE0


60 posted on 03/21/2018 10:00:18 AM PDT by EVO X
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