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NYT: A Billionaire and a Nurse Shouldn’t Pay the Same Fine for Speeding
The New York Times ^ | 03/15/18 | Alec Schierenbeck

Posted on 03/18/2018 6:31:28 PM PDT by Simon Green

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To: Simon Green

Insane. The cops will spend all their time pulling over expensive automobiles on trumped up charges just to levy huge fines, claiming the driver was spending when he or she was not.

Screw that.


81 posted on 03/18/2018 9:01:11 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (No DACA Caca....Send the Nightmares home. "Americans are Dreamers, too." President Trump)
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To: Thumper1960

Let’s make it easier. Let us have “journalists” get a license to write—after they get a mental exam, a physical to see if they have gonads, and post a million dollar bond to make sure they have the balls in case they pass the physical.


82 posted on 03/18/2018 9:59:36 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Fungi
Journalists?

Where have you ever seen a "journalist"?

83 posted on 03/18/2018 10:19:36 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2020)
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To: paint_your_wagon
Don't most RICH people have someone drive them around?

For your screen name.

84 posted on 03/18/2018 10:26:42 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
I think it's different when it is a barter between two private individuals. Companies also offer reduced fees for "frequent" return customers, there are "employee discounts," senior citizen discounts, and other tiered cost structures (e.g. volume discounts, 2/10 net 30, etc.).

It's when the government codifies discrimination into the law that there is a problem.

-PJ

85 posted on 03/18/2018 10:33:50 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: yarddog
The guiding principle for many of today's "journalists."

Along the same lines, "comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable."

The Five W's are rarely followed, if even they're taught.

86 posted on 03/18/2018 10:36:33 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: yarddog
The guiding principle for many of today's "journalists."

Along the same lines, "comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable."

The Five W's are rarely followed, if even they're taught.

87 posted on 03/18/2018 10:37:08 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: Simon Green

This is the $151.00 parking ticket case. The woman FTA’d a bunch of times...
“We spoke, for example, with an African-American woman who has a still-pending case
stemming from 2007, when, on a single occasion, she parked her car illegally. She received two
citations and a $151 fine, plus fees. The woman, who experienced financial difficulties and
periods of homelessness over several years, was charged with seven Failure to Appear offenses
for missing court dates or fine payments on her parking tickets between 2007 and 2010. For
each Failure to Appear, the court issued an arrest warrant and imposed new fines and fees. From
2007 to 2014, the woman was arrested twice, spent six days in jail, and paid $550 to the court for
the events stemming from this single instance of illegal parking. Court records show that she
twice attempted to make partial payments of $25 and $50, but the court returned those payments,
refusing to accept anything less than payment in full. One of those payments was later accepted,
but only after the court’s letter rejecting payment by money order was returned as undeliverable.
This woman is now making regular payments on the fine. As of December 2014, over seven
years later, despite initially owing a $151 fine and having already paid $550, she still owed $541.”


88 posted on 03/19/2018 12:35:17 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

If she is homeless and unemployed, showing up to court ought to be dead easy. If she has trouble remembering, just set an alarm on her Obamaphone.

Seriously, how can anyone not see that failure to appear is a separate offense.

Around here, if you show up for court instead of mailing the fine in, they always reduce the fine by at least half.


89 posted on 03/19/2018 12:54:35 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: BenLurkin

How about “leftist journalists get ten years in jail for a speeding ticket”.

That sounds like “equal justice before the law” to me. ;-)


90 posted on 03/19/2018 2:05:53 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: CurlyDave

“If she is homeless and unemployed, showing up to court ought to be dead easy. If she has trouble remembering, just set an alarm on her Obamaphone.”


But you know, she is black, and single and oppressed by the system set up by white privilege and featured by the “Newspaper of record”, bla bla bla.

So the rich must pay more. Simple.


91 posted on 03/19/2018 2:18:35 AM PDT by miniTAX (au)
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To: Simon Green

What business is it of the government’s how much money I make? The IRS and the state government have already declared entitled themselves to that. I’ll be d@mned if I’m going to readily let the mouth breathing local government officials know what I make (although I’m sure they already know). That kind of information just makes you a target for anyone who has it.


92 posted on 03/19/2018 3:26:13 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: Mom MD

>>Granted. But it is discouraging when I pay a marginal tax rate of about 50%. I work 12-14 hour days, nights, weekends, and holidays so someone else can enjoy the fruits of my labor. Gets old real fast.

Yes it does. This is why i say that labor should not be taxed. Labor is time traded from a finite life in exchange for money. It is immoral to steal time from one life to give it as money to another person.


93 posted on 03/19/2018 4:05:05 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Simon Green

How about the chauffeur of a Billionaire if the chauffeur makes the same as the nurse?


94 posted on 03/19/2018 4:28:09 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: Simon Green

I think there is merit in apportioning a fine based on one’s ability to pay and in keeping with the principle of deterring a repeat offense. The idea is the punishment should be comensurate both with the nature of the offense and the offender’s circumstances.

Its not wealth redistribution. People pay what they owe no more and no less. That’s not favoritism. You don’t want to let people off the hook but treat them as befits their station in life.

Its not fair to treat Zuckerberg and a janitor the same when a fine is due because a flat fine affects them very differently. How much should each offender owe? That’s for society to determine.


95 posted on 03/19/2018 4:44:30 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Simon Green
They shouldn't have to pay the same thing for the NY Times either! Make the rich pay $500 for the daily and $2500 on Sundays. (The Times does still publish a Sunday edition, don't they?)

ML/NJ

96 posted on 03/19/2018 5:59:50 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Simon Green

Another, intellectually dishonest use of the “equity” theme.

And the sheeple??? What about the sheeple??

They are Indoctrinated to not even understand they are getting a theme packaged as “Liberal” or “Progressive” when it is nothing less than another variation of Marx “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need”.


97 posted on 03/19/2018 7:46:16 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Political Junkie Too

You are right that private individuals can ask and contract work as they see fit. I do not know where the line is that something legal creeps in and you find you have to offer the same rates to all comers. Perhaps it is when you advertise?


98 posted on 03/19/2018 8:09:33 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Trump, one good idea after the other.)
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To: goldstategop
Do you see any fourth amendment violations here?

Does the wealthy offender still have the right to be secure in his possessions and papers over a traffic violation, or does the government have a right to see the wealthy offender's bank statements and tax returns in order to assess the fine for simply speeding or running a red light?

Will traffic court judges now be summarily issuing fourth amendment warrants to see bank and tax records just because somebody got a ticket, so they can assess the potential fine even before the person shows up in court to contest it or pay it?

-PJ

99 posted on 03/19/2018 8:40:19 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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