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Microsoft patches patch for Meltdown bug patch: Windows 7, Server 2008 rushed an emergency fix
The Register ^ | Mar 29, 2018 | Shaun Nichols

Posted on 03/30/2018 7:37:48 AM PDT by dayglored

If at first you don't succeed, you're Redmond

Microsoft today issued an emergency security update to correct a security update it issued earlier this month to correct a security update it issued in January and February.

In January and February, Redmond emitted fixes for Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2 machines to counter the Meltdown chip-level vulnerability in modern Intel x64 processors. Unfortunately, those patches blew a gaping hole in the operating systems: normal applications and logged-in users could now access and modify any part of physical RAM, and gain complete control over a box, with the updates installed.

Rather than stop programs and non-administrators from exploiting Meltdown to extract passwords and other secrets from protected kernel memory, the fixes on Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2 instead granted full read-write privileges to system RAM.

Roll on March, and Microsoft pushed out fixes on Patch Tuesday to correct those January and February updates to close the security vulnerability it accidentally opened.

Except that March update didn't fully seal the deal: the bug remained in the kernel, and was exploitable by malicious software and users.

Total Meltdown

Now, if you're using Windows 7 or Server 2008 R2 and have applied Microsoft's Meltdown patches, you'll want to grab and install today's out-of-band update for CVE-2018-1038.

Swedish researcher Ulf Frisk discovered the January and February Meltdown mitigations for Win7 and Server 2008 R2 were broken, and went public with his findings once the March Patch Tuesday had kicked off. As it turns out, this month's updates did not fully fix things, and Microsoft has had to scramble to remedy what was now a zero-day vulnerability in Windows 7 and Server 2008.

In other words, Microsoft has just had to put out a patch for a patch for a patch. Hardly inspiring stuff, but we suppose the old Microsoft adage remains true – never trust a Redmond product until version three at the earliest. On the other hand, writing kernel-level memory management code is an absolute bastard at times, so you have to afford the devs some sympathy.

BTW some of us have written kernel-mode code that manipulates MMU page tables, and it's an absolute fiddly PITA. So gg Microsoft. You got there in the end. https://t.co/bxDbbALhqE — The Register (@TheRegister) March 29, 2018

Frisk told El Reg he only learned the OS-level bug was still present yesterday. When he went live with the flaw on his blog earlier this week, it was with the blessing of Microsoft's security group on the belief the March update had addressed everything.

Needless to say, if you own or administer either a Windows 7 or Server 2008 R2 system, you will want to test and deploy this fix as soon as possible. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: computers; computing; malware; meltdown; microsoft; patch; windows; windowspinglist
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Patch, patch, patch....
1 posted on 03/30/2018 7:37:48 AM PDT by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; amigatec; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; ...
Meltdown patch patch patch ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 03/30/2018 7:38:19 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Patches, I’m depending on you, son!....................


3 posted on 03/30/2018 7:38:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: dayglored

Will there be another patch for this patch?


4 posted on 03/30/2018 7:44:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: dayglored

5 posted on 03/30/2018 7:55:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: dayglored

...and we know THIS one is good -— how?


6 posted on 03/30/2018 7:58:03 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: dayglored
Microsoft Windows is a patch - of MS-DOS...
7 posted on 03/30/2018 8:03:37 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: dayglored

That is one of the reasons I avoided Win10 and its forced updates. MS has a history of releasing updates that create more problems than they fix.

With my Win7 desktop, even though I have ‘do not update’ checked, I still periodically get a ‘critical update’. I can tell because my PC goes bonkers and I usually have to run a Restore Point.

A few weeks ago, I bought a Win10 Tablet just to start learning my way around Win10. Win10 seems an inevitability. I find more websites, for example, balking at my old XP/Win7 browsers, etc.

Yesterday, I noticed the Win10 tablet light blinking, so I figured an update was going on. After about an hour, I noticed the screensaver was stalled. After another hour, the screensaver still stalled, I unplugged the tablet and held the on-off switch. After a couple of tries, it finally restarted and went to an ‘update in progress’ screen. A few minutes later, it started up — so I guess my turning it off and on didn’t mess anything up. I am still not familiar enough with Win10 to find out what this new update did, because it flashed a brief message that ‘new features were being installed.’

I still hate Win10. Every time I play around with the Win10 tablet, I find Win10 frustrating. Please please please God let my Win7 desktop and laptop last a few more years.


8 posted on 03/30/2018 8:07:52 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: dayglored

The Win10 in my laptop has gone completely stupid. I get a message that it needs to update, because this version isn’t going to get updates after April, so I run the update, and it fails to load.

It has done this no fewer than 9 times now. I suppose I have to bite the bullet and take it in.

I should never have let Win10 into the machine in the first place...


9 posted on 03/30/2018 8:09:11 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: TomGuy
Please please please God let my Win7 desktop and laptop last a few more years.

I agree!. . .I know enough to be dangerous about all of this. I think I have automatic updates. . .although I thought they weren't updating anymore on Win7. Should I download the patch in the article?

10 posted on 03/30/2018 8:28:34 AM PDT by Maudeen (Jesus . . . He Gave His Life for You!)
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To: Don W

I let mine do the big OS update - in order to do it, I had to update the BIOS - been working great ever since...


11 posted on 03/30/2018 8:44:40 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: TomGuy

“With my Win7 desktop, even though I have ‘do not update’ checked, I still periodically get a ‘critical update’.”

here’s the best way to update W7:

http://www.wsusoffline.net/

right now, i’ve got a custom excludelist.txt file with this in it:

kb4088878,Windows 7 / Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1

also advise use of this:

https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm


12 posted on 03/30/2018 9:03:07 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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> Please please please God let my Win7 desktop and laptop last a few more years.
13 posted on 03/30/2018 9:08:37 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

I use Macrium Reflect Free (for home use) for hard drive imaging.

Image backups have saved me several times, when system restore failed.


14 posted on 03/30/2018 9:11:44 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: dayglored

Microsoft is suffering from delusions of competency.


15 posted on 03/30/2018 10:48:35 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: TomGuy

I use Clonezilla. Text based and free, it requires the user to pay attention, but it works well.


16 posted on 03/30/2018 10:53:50 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: dayglored
Microsoft today issued an emergency security update to correct a security update it issued earlier this month to correct a security update it issued in January and February.

Microsoft is getting a bad reputation...

17 posted on 03/30/2018 11:14:15 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Morning Joe and his Smiling Sycophants"... for times when only 'creepy' satisfies...)
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To: dayglored

Companies are now more concerned with real-time updates than producing solid code that works so customers can use the software. Microsoft, and everyone else, has become not worth the costs.


18 posted on 03/30/2018 11:36:39 AM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republicans took their slaves away.)
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Microsoft is getting a bad reputation...

Getting? HA!

19 posted on 03/30/2018 11:58:57 AM PDT by upchuck (Keep a sharp lookout. The best is yet to come.)
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To: WayneS

My last update was 12-1-2017. I see I now need 348mb of updates to Windows 7. This on top of the gigabytes of updates
The C:\Windows folder has 29gb’s of files. The spying software from Microsoft takes up a lot of space.

My Windows 10 install in Oracle VM VirtualBox shows 13gb’s which I have installed for show with only Firefox added since the initial install.


20 posted on 03/30/2018 3:47:13 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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