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Who sent the dream to the wife of Pontius Pilate?

Posted on 03/31/2018 9:08:45 AM PDT by MNDude

In the Gospels, it mentions that the wife of Pontius Pilate has a dream that Jesus is innocent and she tells Pilate that he should not condemn Jesus.

What she is saying, is indeed true, and if Pilate listened to her, he may have avoided falling into sin. Yet, if Pilate listened to her, this would not have been according to God's will.

Thus, I am curious to hear your thoughts if this dream came from God, Satan, or other source.


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1 posted on 03/31/2018 9:08:45 AM PDT by MNDude
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Her reporting of the dream to PP clarified his sin, removed the ambivalence. Today a dream wouldn’t hold much weight in court but in 30AD it probably would have.


2 posted on 03/31/2018 9:13:43 AM PDT by arthurus (ui)
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No human knows where dreams come from. Unless scripture states an angel or demon was involved it was probably just a dream.


3 posted on 03/31/2018 9:17:27 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: arthurus

That’s something I’ve never thought of. Intriguing notion.


4 posted on 03/31/2018 9:17:33 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (Progressives are turning America into "Harrison Bergeron" as conceived by Ayn Rand.)
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To: MNDude

God could have given all of Jerusalem the same dream but chose not to. Instead He warned a select few who maybe had no power to stop the crucifixion but who could have an influence after the fact?


5 posted on 03/31/2018 9:20:57 AM PDT by tellw (ed)
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To: MNDude

I recently saw the film “Risen” about the Roman investigation into the Resurrection - the actor that played Pontius Pilate did an excellent job.


6 posted on 03/31/2018 9:22:45 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: MNDude

I believe God sent her the dream, but he also knew Pontus would crucify Jesus.

As Saint Paul says, this sweeps ashes over their heads. Not your doing but rather God’s.

Romans 12:20 On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”

Further, I do not believe Satan has the Power to do something God won’t allow. So in essence, Satan’s acts are God’s.

This doesn’t make God evil in any way. All humanity has choices—we have inherent Free Will.

But so does Satan. Satan more than any other CREATURE, has run away with his choices, well knowing, beyond any other creature, the penalty for this.


7 posted on 03/31/2018 9:22:46 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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I think your dreams are manifestations of one’s fears and desires.

I think the Bible says that for a dream to be a forecast, it has to happen 3 times.


8 posted on 03/31/2018 9:23:36 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: MNDude

Interesting question. Dreams are very common in the Bible, as a harbinger of the future, a kind of oracle, or description of some hidden reality.

Your question could be rephrased to be: “in the Christian worldview, what are dreams?”


9 posted on 03/31/2018 9:25:12 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: arthurus

Could well have been key to his eventual repentance too. Though we have no evidence one way or another, so I’ll just leave that as a ‘maybe.’


10 posted on 03/31/2018 9:26:48 AM PDT by Luircin
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Some dreams are clearly sent by God We are told in the last days young men will see visions and old men will dream dreams. In addition God warned people in dreams or revealed truth to them. Those who received the dreams clearly knew they were from God so something had to be different about those dreams. I think for the most part dreams are just dreams, but God can and does communicate through dreams at times.


11 posted on 03/31/2018 9:31:12 AM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Agreed. “I believe God sent her the dream, but he also knew Pontus would crucify Jesus.”
Similar to God instructing Moses what to say to Pharaoh and what plague to call down; knowing that Pharaoh wouldn’t budge anyhow.


12 posted on 03/31/2018 9:34:05 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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The dream can be seen as natural and normal, an expression of the anxieties of Pilate's wife about a politically dangerous issue. Yet, as a matter of teleology, the dream was most likely intended as a warning to Pilate and in respect of his free will. Since the demonic scorns human free will, it would not be the source of the dream.

The larger point is that as much as the Passion of Christ was according to Divine purpose, all involved -- including Christ -- acted of free will. Read carefully, the Gospels show this again and again, in ways large and small. I think that the dream that warned Pilate makes the point that even Pilate had a choice.

13 posted on 03/31/2018 9:36:36 AM PDT by Rockingham
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Maybe she was a harridan like Hillary Clinton ... which would explain why Pilate ignored her. :-P


14 posted on 03/31/2018 9:45:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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Okay, I’ll go against the grain here and say that possibly the dream came from Satan since Satan knew who Jesus was and probably knew that Jesus being killed would destroy the works of Satan.

Who knows though?


15 posted on 03/31/2018 9:46:46 AM PDT by Ammo Republic 15
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To: MNDude

A lump of undigested gruel?


16 posted on 03/31/2018 9:48:05 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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Pilate DID listen and tried to tell the crowd that he found no fault in Jesus. They wouldn’t listen and Pilate wanted to save his own skin so he acquiesced to the barbarians


17 posted on 03/31/2018 9:52:38 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Mom MD

We’re hearing millions of muslims are coming to Christ from visions and dreams too.


18 posted on 03/31/2018 9:55:06 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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i always wondered what God thought of Pilate...he did in fact try to reason with the crowd and said there was no reason to condemn Christ and went as far as saying “its on you”...


19 posted on 03/31/2018 10:00:20 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: PGR88

Dreams that are more that just dreams still happen, or such would be my own experience.

The practical problem as I see it is that they are a bit like how speaking in tongues when there is no one to interpret: they may provide personal edification etc but their substance isn’t open to inspection by others like Scripture is and other folks generally don’t benefit from them as a result.


20 posted on 03/31/2018 10:00:24 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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