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“Walking Dead” grumble thread: They flipped the script
hotair.com ^ | 4/2/2018 | unknown

Posted on 04/03/2018 10:28:20 AM PDT by rktman

Lot going on last night, starting with a role reversal for the two male leads. Who’s the soft-spoken guy mourning a loved one who regrets seeing so much death around him? Why, that would be … Negan? And who’s the ruthless monster who’d lie to the enemy’s face to save his own skin and then murder them in cold blood once their backs are turned? That, of course, would be … Rick? The script, it has flipped. It’s either a bold commentary on the hard reality of situational morals when civilization has broken down *or* the writers got bored with these two jabronis running in their same little characterological circles week after week.

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To: rktman

Non fan. I have never watched a single moment.


21 posted on 04/03/2018 11:26:43 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: rktman

I’ll start watching again once I hear they’ve killed off the worst character ever, which is the main character Rick. Most of the problems seem to be related to his horrible decision making skills.


22 posted on 04/03/2018 11:27:09 AM PDT by Squeako (You can lead a progressive to water, but can you make him drown?)
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To: shotgun
I’m sure Rick regrets Carl not killing the new doctor guy

No, it was Rick who failed to kill the new doc, Siddiq. Rick shot over Siddiq's head and allowed him to escape. Because he showed mercy, Carl died. This is what "flipped Rick's switch" to cold blooded killer. Of course he will read Carl's letter and that will bring him back. Rick has done this flip a couple times now. Remember "Farmer Rick" back at the prison...

23 posted on 04/03/2018 11:28:58 AM PDT by ETCM
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To: higgmeister

It is pretty lame when/if you think about it.


24 posted on 04/03/2018 11:33:07 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Teflonic
I'm not sure what would be considered the true 'jump the shark' moment (Beth's demise?), but the show is definitely in its post jump the shark stage now.

I think it jumped the shark when Negan used his bat on Glen and the Ginger.

25 posted on 04/03/2018 11:39:15 AM PDT by greenishness
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To: 4everontheRight

Rick and Morgan were out looking for the Herd, noticed body parts on the road, along with a stranded vehicle. Rick was in mid sentence, then you hear a thunk, screen goes blank, and next we see them both tied up, and the remaining Herd members all around them.


26 posted on 04/03/2018 11:51:11 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: higgmeister
"Non fan. I have never watched a single moment."

I'm like that with certain programs. I don't do sit-coms. I never cared for zombie movies, but my youngest son started watching it, and got me interested...so I began watching it, and haven't stopped yet. I never read the graphic novels, so whatever AMC airs is the story as I know it.

27 posted on 04/03/2018 11:53:30 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: rktman

For some reason Zombie stories are simultaneously silly yet compelling.

Lots of situational ethics. It interests audiences to explore “what if” moral conundrums.

To me, that’s not always good story telling. I prefer a well-grounded sense of morality coming from the authors, even though characters are more interesting (and realistic) when they are flawed.

Our sense of morality requires that justice be meted out to evildoers within stories. When a character like Negan bashes heads in of living people who have committed no crimes, but on an arbitrary whim to exert control over a group, the story feels incomplete until he has gotten his just due.

Aristotle identified this in his Poetics as an important part of the structure of story telling. He called it catharsis, which is the purging of pity. It makes the audience want justice to happen to the evil doer.


28 posted on 04/03/2018 12:03:21 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: rktman
*or* the writers got bored with these two jabronis running in their same little characterological circles week after week.

Not a good sign.

"LOST" writers did the same thing and it became confusing beyond understanding. They later admitted they were trying to find ways to keep the series going.

When everything flips on a whim, good becomes bad, bad becomes good, and back and forth, the story lines loses integrity. If you can't rely on characters to be who they are, whom do you side with? Who is your hero? Whom do you root for?

Mixing things up or running out of ideas?

Either way, such plot twists don't bode well for continuity and viewer loyalty.

Beginning of the end?

29 posted on 04/03/2018 12:07:41 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: rktman

Who did Negan pick up en route to the Sanctuary at the end? It has to be Dwight’s long-lost wife, right?

I thought it was the lady who got away from the Alexandrian’s ambush that knows Iron-Face aka Dwight turned on Negan and the Saviors.....


30 posted on 04/03/2018 12:12:58 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: 4everontheRight
Did I miss something? How did Rick & Morgan get captured to begin with???

They were out looking for Henry and weren't exercising situational awareness when they stumbled on the Savior prisoners who escaped the Hilltop because of Henry's idiocy.

Dey wasn't watchin' they 'six'.

31 posted on 04/03/2018 12:17:51 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should care less about who we may offend and care more about who we may inspire.)
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To: j.havenfarm
Enough, already.

I agree. This is my last season for TWD.

32 posted on 04/03/2018 12:19:20 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should care less about who we may offend and care more about who we may inspire.)
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To: rktman

You just watch. They’ll wind up this story line with some phony kumbaya moment between Rick and Negan. That’s where this whole train wreck is headed.

If Negan doesn’t die horribly this season, it’s the end of the line ror me. The series is walking dead.


33 posted on 04/03/2018 12:24:36 PM PDT by IronJack (A)
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To: ro_dreaming

I was thinking it was the weird older lady that took the records and gave the crates of food? That’s the only way to tie them back into the story?


34 posted on 04/03/2018 12:27:20 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: mass55th

Thanks! I fast forward thru a lot of it some days but I went back to find out what happened and still didn’t see it so thanks for the info!


35 posted on 04/03/2018 12:31:06 PM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Just an aside, but anyone else notice the continual slide wracking and hammer cocking that goes on? Always chambering a round even if they just got done firing. Guess that's dramatic effect huh? 🤔😹🍿🍻🇺🇸
36 posted on 04/03/2018 12:40:36 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

In a coming episode Negan marries the trash lady.


37 posted on 04/03/2018 12:47:02 PM PDT by McGruff (#StopTheInvasion)
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To: LongWayHome
They are setting Rick up for a “redemption arc”.

It started at the end of this episode with him reading Carl's letter.

Rick's depravity and redemption has been a a theme throughout the series. Hell, just in the Negan Arc, Rick started out murdering what he thought was all of the Saviors. Then, he wanted to let them all go, thinking Negan was the only one at "the Sanctuary" that should die. Now, he blames himself for letting Siddiq live, resulting in Carl's death, so everyone dies again. Next week?

And it's not just Rick; Maggie, Carl, Morgan, Carol, etc. All have gone back and forth a couple times.

38 posted on 04/03/2018 12:51:02 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: unlearner

Wow. Learn something new every day. Never knew that about Aristotle


39 posted on 04/03/2018 1:14:22 PM PDT by Karoo
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To: McGruff
🙏👫👸🏼👷🏻💍🍿🍻😹🇺🇸
40 posted on 04/03/2018 1:34:15 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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