[Teflonic]

I'm not sure what would be considered the true 'jump the shark' moment (Beth's demise?), but the show is definitely in its post jump the shark stage now.

[greenishness]

I'm not sure what would be considered the true 'jump the shark' moment (Beth's demise?), but the show is definitely in its post jump the shark stage now.

I think it jumped the shark when Negan used his bat on Glen and the Ginger.