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All new cars in US now required to have backup cameras
http://abcnews.go.com/ ^ | 5/2/18

Posted on 05/02/2018 12:09:36 PM PDT by BBell

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To: BBell

I was not aware of this before. It sounds good but it sounds like one more thing to break to me. Will they require backup warnings next? If it will save one life...


I have had a backup camera on my Acura MDX for the past 14 years so they will not break.

My 2015 Acura TLX has all the backup warnings signals plus the blind side and lane departure warning, brake mitigation, and adaptive cruise control and they are fantastic. I cannot buy another vehicle without them.


61 posted on 05/02/2018 12:52:04 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: rktman

Lenses get dirty fast.


62 posted on 05/02/2018 12:52:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: grania
Modern cars have so many blind spots that a rear view camera has become necessary.

I think you have the cart before the horse. The availability of rearview cameras has allowed and encouraged designers to make cars with truly atrocious sight lines.

63 posted on 05/02/2018 12:54:19 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: BBell

I thought about adding one to mine.


64 posted on 05/02/2018 12:54:59 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BBell

Clip....”This measure will save countless lives, especially of children.”

Surely there must be some hard data that provides the actual number of lives lost due to lack of rear facing cameras...Public needs to know the actual numbers and circumstances, number of drunk or impaired drivers, homocides, accidental or otherwise, etc.

Back when OSHA and CPSC got started they tackled the need for safety glass in public areas, setting sill heights, and safety glass standards. Among the items included in their manadrin mandates were glass jalousie slats, common in the south . The glass slats, formerly of tempered glass about 1/4” thick, same as used for shelves in medicine cabinets, were cited in the data appendices were the cause of only three injuries nation wide, none fatal. One was a broken finger while stumbling into the jalousie door. Another was a small child with minor cuts. The worst of the injuries, though not serious were the result of an admitted drunk youth crashing through while staggering.

Nonethe less, the “if it saves one child...” dictum created onerous regulations created by legions of government mandarins accountable to no one.

3 incidents buried in back page foot notes can change the course of an industry with vast economic and social behavioral changes. That’s all it takes. Thats why we need to see hard data up front, not actors tearfullu pleading for some flavor of the month whacko cause.

Read my tag line.....


65 posted on 05/02/2018 12:55:52 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: BBell

Dont need one but WOMEN drivers need one.

(HIDING before Freeper ladies lynch me)


66 posted on 05/02/2018 12:57:20 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: Obadiah

It can be handy when backing without clearing snow off of the back window and mirrors....


67 posted on 05/02/2018 12:57:34 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: BBell

So people become dependent on the cams and forget to turn around and look whats coming around either side of them. I have a cam in my car and that’s my take away.


68 posted on 05/02/2018 12:58:12 PM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: Salvavida

They already do and it’s called YOU:-)


69 posted on 05/02/2018 12:59:53 PM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: BBell

I like my back up camera.

What I would like are cameras on the side of rear bumbers. I have a low sedan, and have to inch my way out of a parking space.


70 posted on 05/02/2018 1:00:39 PM PDT by Exit148 (OH LORD, Your children need you. (Loose Chnge Club founder) Put yours aside for the next Freepathon!)
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To: Celerity
They wind up going faster down these dark roads and taking more chances.

Yes. The majority of vehicles involved in accidents when the weather is snowy or icy are SUVs and 4WD and AWD vehicles. People think they can drive like it's nice and dry out. I noticed as 4WD, AWD, and ABS became more prevalent there seem to be more accidents during inclement weather. People drive like maniacs relying on these systems instead of common sense.

71 posted on 05/02/2018 1:00:46 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: woodbutcher1963

My Wife’s car has one and I do check it for roaming kitties who are outside...


72 posted on 05/02/2018 1:01:29 PM PDT by Shady (We WON the Battle, Now let's WIN THE WAR!!!!)
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To: mrmeyer

THat’s because of the fleet mileage standard. You see all those mini SUVs now replacing sedans?


73 posted on 05/02/2018 1:01:37 PM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: BBell

EPA fleet mileage mandates means automakers have needed to add expensive fuel-injectors, turbo-chargers, and computers (as well as cheap, light plastics) to your autos to get smaller engines to run at higher gas mileages.

Because safety mandates also mean window space is shrinking, now the nanny state must also mandate back-up cameras.


74 posted on 05/02/2018 1:02:23 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: woodbutcher1963

My 16 Tacoma came with one and love it.

The camera has saved me. My new neighborhood has a narrow street. My area has had some new houses go up and contractor vehicles all over.

The sales guy told me that there have been more crunches on the lot because staff gotten too dependent.


75 posted on 05/02/2018 1:05:44 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: BBell

Another SOP to the arrogant technologists, on course over the next 20 years to be the owners of the auto industry, as profit margins on everything outside the technology get squeezed.

What is a government “mandate”; is it about market competition? No. Mandates are about insuring a certain thing MUST be part of a product or service, thus insuring vendors buy/pay for the inclusion of that mandate, and as a mandate competition in providing it, or not is killed (when everyone MUST do, there is no longer any competition for providing it, or not).

Mandates, all mandates are a SOP to the industry who will provide the means for them. THAT and for no other reason are why they exist.


76 posted on 05/02/2018 1:05:45 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: BBell

My 2015 Dodge Challenger has a Backup Camera and Sensors to alert me when someone drives past or walks behind when the Car is in Reverse. If it wasn’t included in the Equipment Package, I probably wouldn’t have ordered it along with the Navigation I have. Now I’m glad both were on the Car.

I am surprised how many People will see you backing up and pull behind or walk behind your Car as you are backing out of a Parking Space. Absolutely no courtesy or patience.

My Wife’s Car, a 2013 Kia Optima has the Backup Camera but no Sensors.

Dollar to a Donut that the next “requirement” will be the addition of the Sensors.


77 posted on 05/02/2018 1:09:43 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: BBell

Just the other day, I watched a doofus in a brand new Mercedes SUV (c. $80K) ignore the backup camera and back into another car doing several thousands in damage.


78 posted on 05/02/2018 1:11:41 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: NorthMountain

You’re probably correct. Car manufacturers have been enabled to have bad designs because technology is supposed to replace good driving. A year ago, I switched to a Kia Rio for its larger windows. I like it much better than not knowing for myself what’s coming at me.


79 posted on 05/02/2018 1:19:04 PM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: BBell

A doc too busy to notice his 2 year old and ran him over causes much virtue signaling, and subsequent expense to the the majority of us who have never backed over anything. I’ll buy older cars as long as I can.


80 posted on 05/02/2018 1:23:54 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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