The Evidence for Noah's Flood

Depths of Pentecost ^ | May 12, 2018 | Philip Cottraux

[pcottraux]

I wasn't sure if I should post this in Religion or Bloggers, but decided that General/Chat would be a good place since it doesn't focus on the religious aspects of the flood as the historical/archaeological/geologic evidence for whether such an event really occurred.

I know a lot of my evangelical friends will probably chastise me for posting what seems to be support for the "local flood" theory (that the Biblical deluge only struck the ancient Middle East) but that isn't my intention at all...in fact, in the past I've also written about the possibility of a global flood.

I just wanted to present evidence for how the flood affected Mesopotamia (the setting of Biblical story) specifically. If anyone disagrees with this approach, well...that's what the comments are for!

This should be fun!

[pcottraux]

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[GOP Poet]

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[pcottraux]

Thanks, I realize this one was a bit long (almost twice the length of my usual blogs!).

[GOP Poet]

Absolutely. I look forward to reading it. I usually bookmark a lot of threads for later reading. So anything longer than a few sentences gets bookmarked. Also bookmark to keep and eye on others comments—always fun or enriching or both :D. Have a great day!!

[Theo]

Evidence indicates that there is more water under the earth’s mantle than in all the oceans on the surface of the earth:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2133963-theres-as-much-water-in-earths-mantle-as-in-all-the-oceans/

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23231014-700-deepest-water-found-1000km-down-a-third-of-way-to-earths-core/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/there-may-be-second-massive-ocean-deep-beneath-surface-180950090/

That’s a LOT of water. A whole lot more than a mere tsunami.

Scripture talks about how water first burst forth from “the deep,” and only after that point did the water from the heavens (a relatively thin layer of water) collapse onto the earth and flood it. Once the water burst forth, the tectonic plates certainly shifted in dramatic fashion, causing deep valleys and great mountains to form.

I have no problem believing that the flood was global. To me, that’s what Scripture points toward.

Fascinating stuff!

[Theo]

And this:

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-modern-groundwater-20151116-story.html

... etc.

[Windflier]

The geological and archaeological evidence is irrefutable. Sometime between 11,500 and 12,500 years ago, sea levels suddenly rose by 300 feet, worldwide.

Ten million square miles of coastal lands disappeared nearly overnight, and ancient texts bear witness to the event around the world. The oldest such account was preserved on clay tablets by the ancient Sumerians, six thousand years ago. It's eerily similar to Noah's flood story.

[CondorFlight]

“And the ark rested in the seventh month, and the seventeenth day of the month”

As Grant Jeffrey has pointed out, this is also the date of the Resurrection, when mankind is saved (again). Surely not a coincidence.

[Poison Pill]

One righteous man is chosen to save our species

The common Y chromosome ancestor lived 250,000 years ago, not 4,000.

[El Cid]

Thanks for posting - this is always a fascinating subject.

[Windflier]

The common Y chromosome ancestor lived 250,000 years ago, not 4,000.

True. Mitochondrial DNA evidence proves that Homo Sapiens did not exist before that date, but paleontologists don't want to talk about it. Must preserve Darwinism at all costs.

[Manly Warrior]

Indeed. The fossil record is used to confirm the archeological which is used to confirm the fossil record, rinse, repeat until everyone forgets the cyclical manner of it all.

[CondorFlight]

“The common Y chromosome ancestor lived 250,000 years ago, not 4,000.”

Measuring time is a peculiar thing. If you take a spaceship and go at nearly the speed of light to the edge of the galaxy, and return, it would take you about 40 years. But in that period, about 100,000 years would have passed on earth.
Yet you would only be 40 years older.

I think we can’t measure yet with any accuracy how “old” the earth is, or how much time has passed between events.

[Poison Pill]

Mitochondrial DNA evidence proves that Homo Sapiens did not exist before that date

No it doesn't. The common female and male ancestors don't need to exist at the same time. They just both have to be common to everyone alive today.

[El Cid]

Evidence indicates that there is more water under the earth’s mantle than in all the oceans on the surface of the earth...

I am not sure if you are familiar with Dr. Walter Brown's work, but he has a bunch of interesting videos on Youtube regarding his Flood model (Hydroplate Model) of the Great Flood being initiated by 'the Fountains of the Deep' bursting open.

Short Version:
Walter Brown's Hydroplate Model - 10 minutes

Long Version
Walter Brown's Hydroplate Model (Bryan Nickels) - 2hrs

[ealgeone]

Evidence indicates that there is more water under the earth’s mantle than in all the oceans on the surface of the earth:

I referenced two of these sources in a paper I wrote for my OT Seminary class on Evidence for the Flood.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

A different take...

Science and Noah's Flood

[lizma2]

Very interesting. Thx for the info.

It seems that many areas on the planet have been flooded and it’s been written about. It’s been theorized Noah’s flood was a Caspian Sea flood.

A great book on Geology and the planet is by Bill Bryson.

https://www.amazon.com/Short-History-Nearly-Everything/dp/076790818X

He discusses climate change prior to humans. What a hoot!!

Our planet once was almost totally frozen (Thank God for global warming!) and later you could walk to Alaska from Russia, Japan from China, and the U.K from “the continent”.

The Sahara desert has river beds.

[lizma2]

YUK. Too much science in the opposite direction. Fake news.